Even if you bring down optimistic rent expectation in Charlotte, NC area, it still seems like a good investment on paper.

Regardless, I'm optimistic about it all and hope to get some great use out of this forum.

If you can get them down to, say, two approved pets and charge market pet deposits and pet rent, that would be a solution, but I am not optimistic that will work for a pet hoarder.  

That's the reason I used most pessimistic to most optimistic estimates in APOD analysis.And I also want to know if it is insulting if I go with an offer based on my analysis if it is significantly lower than the list price or is it still worthwhile making an offer.

I think that it would be optimistic to account for any appreciation or much rent increase at all.

I felt she was too optimistic and wanted to go for a quick sale so I had her list at $199,999.

I suspect that your estimate of costs to build out two units is very optimistic.

I'm optimistic and think there are opportunities out there.  

I'm still optimistic that technology will heal the industry by giving quality sponsors the tools they need to bypass intermediaries providing little or no value.  

New FSBOs are optimistic and don't know what they're doing.