This was while I was taking my kids down the street to a birthday party and they hear this lady screaming at me about "What should I have done?

those owners are screaming like banshee's because its affecting their credit.. threats of suits .. come.I roll in and bail them out of pretty much this whole mess.. by negotiating with the owners paying off some that ACTUALLY had equity etc etc. but this did not keep the sellers form filing complaints at the AG s office they go there get a cease and desist and a big fine.. ( lucky that was all it was.)

Long term cash flow and long term appreciation I agree with is doable; short term controlled/forced appreciation via value add as a good strategy in any market I also agree with; but sorry, not bloody likely with short term "naturally aspirated" cash flow and long term appreciation both; those two are like opposite ends of a teetter totter, as one side goes up, the other side goes down.Properties that are bought turnkey at retail with high cash flow day one are inexpensive properties, and they are inexpensive for the very reason that they don't appreciate much ... it is possible to make money playing that game, but let us not delude ourselves that you can go out on the MLS and easily find a turnkey property that with no value add has high day one cash flow and will magically reverse its long term trend and start to appreciate rapidly for the next few decades starting the day after you close escrow. 

I too thought it was a good program but too rich for my blood. I

I don't care if the dude is a cross burning KKK nazi or a kill whitey screaming black panther.  

Nothing screams "I don't care" like an immediate response.   

. :-) Okay, she screamed at me once or twice but we both knew I deserved it.

Bloody awesome mate,Thanks for taking the time out to respond in such detail.Definitely opened my eyes to quite a few things I missed.I'll look into your sites in more detail.Thanks and have a great day.

The foreign-owned hotels and resorts screamed bloody murder, but that $50-$100 a night for a bedroom while children doubled up or slept on the couch in the living room went a long way to keeping a hell of a lot of people in their condos.

I once showed an apartment to a woman and her grandkids and the kids started running around the place chasing one another screaming.