Deal c would still likely rent at my estimate, the college thing is more potential appreciation but the deal is good even without appreciation.I tend to be stubborn and push forward even when I shouldn't so I may be wrong, but it seems to me that this has to turn around eventually and I'm investing for the long term so why wait?

Because they insisted, I lowered my first month's rent as a gesture of goodwill but I feel like I've been cheated just because they are being stubborn. 

There was a lot of profit involved and I was just stubborn ;-).

Hi again, Mr. Pockets. I've put my primary home on market, just Zillow for now, with a nice description and price started at $700,000 ($70,000 less than posted last yr). I will work with agents for 3%, but unwill...

There are lots of reasons for a property to sit around, not the least of which being that it was simply priced too high and the seller - probably a bank - was too stubborn for too long.

This has stopped many people from selling and many sellers are truely to stubborn to reduce the price the believe there equity will over come the cost of the liens.What do you all think?

Either that, or they're often stubborn and think that they'll take matters into their own hands and shut off the water when rent is unpaid.  

If we hire someone that turns out to be a stubborn mule, we have to tell them that they are not going to work out.

well, now that's he dropped the price 20% and still can't sell it cuz he has it listed in the freakin pennysaver only, has spent time and money to try and sell it, he's STILL GONNA PAY THE 6% on top of the money he's lost in the process of being stubborn (and stupid).realtors offer a good service - the trick is to find one that knows what he/she is doing and they'll MAKE YOU MONEY when you sell and buy!

A lot of us are tying this to the persistence of public sector employment and government-tied jobs (feel free to make your own zinger about how government jobs have a stubborn tendency to stick around even when the rest of the job market is getting hit).