Tony While this is a real estate forum, real estate does not outpace other investment accounts, they are almost identical and historically the difference is so slight it would not change your way of life.

(A bit of self-interest here....I am in the Eugene (Springfield) market and always looking for references for reliable, quality maintenance people!)

The property is a 4bd 1 Bath SFH with 4 almost identical rooms located in the Summit - University neighborhood in St Paul.  

(option to go to 24, but I want the initial project to begin locally.)Location- OhioMarket type- Local, within 8 miles to meBuilds- Identical 2700sf, 4 bed, 3 bath , placing the same structure that meets the tenants criteria in 9 locations.Debt: Seeking a refinancing option  based on a 9% cap rateThe difference ( 450,000 x 9= 4,050,000    vs    NOI of $384,261 / 9% = 4,269,576 or $474k/property + tenant)with our continued rates of appreciation and a standardized tenant/lease structure in place, this should be a win for everyone.Who has a solution?

I would not do a fix and flip in Florida as a new investor with the costs (and reliability) of contractors and the insurance costs right now.

While we do not see income from these properties and are not managing them we do have a significant amount of depreciation and losses that have been assigned to us and carried over from the past couple years.I am invested in some growth/equity focused projects already and am specifically looking in reliable income focused strategies that are tax efficient provided the losses I have from my family.

The off-market game, although still very competitive, has brought my investors more consistent and reliable results. 

Hi RyanFind a reliable property manager for accurate rent rates to determine how the numbers will work.

I knew that I was paying premium because that's the point of turnkey companies, however at least my houses had reliable foundations and structures.

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