G'Day Bob,Not many "true" turnkey companies around anymore and I've seen a trend where investors want to DIY out of state and country.Personally, I think this is an even bigger recipe for disaster than buying turnkey.bBut that's just my opinion.Back in the day you had many "turnkey" companies selling crappy properties in crappy areas for a lot more than market value.Then they pass you on to a 3rd party PM that nickel and dimes you to death.Granted, if you want to DIY I would always advise moving to the market that you want to invest in.Spending enough time with key people needed to make your venture a success.Yep, easier said than done 🤷‍♂️If you DIY from out of state, you will probably find an "investor friendly" agent that will flog you expensive property from the MLS, refer a "good" contractor and then you will most likely also get nickel and dimed by a referred "trustworthy" PM.IMO, you are safer finding a reputable turnkey provider in a market that you want to invest in and go from there.If $#%@ hit's the fan (Which it always does in real estate), at least you have everyone to blame under the same roof.A true turnkey provider will have everything an out of state investor would/want and need under the same roof.No finger pointing is allowed lolI'm bias as we offer turnkey so take my words with a grain of salt.Just happy to offer my 0.2 Aussie cents.Wishing you much success

Long-Term: Appreciation, loan amortization, potential tax benefits, and housing expense savings.I'd say the unexpected benefits of learning property management, deal finding, project management, renovations, and DIY-ing were more impactful than I initially thought.

It does not necessarily mean swinging a hammer, mowing lawn or installing plumbing.

But a house hack is a perfect use case to DIY property management. 

What would the market rent be if you painted, and installed new floors and countertops?

I would probably go the mini split route if there are easy places to install them.

G'Day Trevor,Just posted the same below to another investor asking about turnkey and my advice stays the same 😁There aren't many "true" turnkey companies around anymore and I've seen a trend where investors want to DIY out of state and country.Personally, I think this is an even bigger recipe for disaster than buying turnkey.But that's just my opinion.Back in the day you had many "turnkey" companies selling crappy properties in crappy areas for a lot more than market value.Then they pass you on to a 3rd party PM that nickel and dimes you to death.Granted, if you want to DIY I would always advise moving to the market that you want to invest in.Spending enough time with key people needed to make your venture a success.Yep, easier said than done 🤷‍♂️If you DIY from out of state, you will probably find an "investor friendly" agent that will flog you expensive property from the MLS, refer a "good" contractor and then you will most likely also get nickel and dimed by a referred "trustworthy" PM.IMO, you are safer finding a reputable turnkey provider in a market that you want to invest in and go from there.If $#%@ hit's the fan (Which it always does in real estate), at least you have everyone to blame under the same roof.A true turnkey provider will have everything an out of state investor would/want and need under the same roof.No finger pointing is allowed lolI'm bias as we offer turnkey so take my words with a grain of salt.Just happy to offer my 0.2 Aussie cents.Wishing you much success

What is the average cost for purchase, installation, and the associated app?

Property managers that over promise, work not fully completed to satisfaction, things not being installed correctly, etc.

I got a great tile installer referred to me yesterday from the guy that was installing gutters.