Unfortunately there are pretty much ZERO good property managers in town.Most lie, cheat and steal.We started offering management to folks that didn't buy through our turnkey model but decided to stop doing it for now.PM is a S#@# business unless you have large volume where you can actually turn a profit.Most PM companies in Toledo have very few under management so the only way to put food on the table is to up charge everything.Some "on top" fees include: Eviction, *** maintenance *** (This one is the biggest scam they pull) , leasing renewal, admin fees, tenant placement, etc...A tonne of penny pinching happens as the monthly 10% is not enough to pay the bills.Be very cautiousMuch success 

I have developer friends and other investors even if they are a broker/agent have another company list and sell for them because they have other things they want to do.Some people can pinch pennies by stepping over dollars or they can have an ego superiority type complex.

Thanks gents, I used to use a signature platform, but as we all try to pinch every dollar I decided to try the rentredi signature platform.

But I suspect some out there will be getting pinched very soon.

Pinch of salt required with any.Might also recon:"Passive Investing In Commercial Real Estate": by James KandasamySyndicating Is a B*tch: And Other Truths You Haven't Been Told" 'by @Bruce Petersen (Free still, I think) 

I'm an investor and a General Contractor and I have found being handy is most useful in both knowing how to do something the right way or, in a pinch, being able to jump in and do it yourself. 

More specifically, I'm starting with wholesaling (I am not generating enough income from my job to have anything to invest even if I pinched pennies for years) I am interested in short term rentals and flipping.

So this mirage that builder-developers are some how going to get into a pinch like '09' of having countless units sitting empty, it's ignorance, it just does not work that way anymore BECAUSE of '09'.

When I was 19 or 20, so many people I looked at that did what I was doing — pinching pennies and trying to save and spend this much — that wasn't for me," he shares.

I've learned to take these with a pinch of salt.