I believe I hear what you are saying though, for sure -- that it's better, more fair, and more likely to get deals, if you yourself can show up to the table offering something.... in hard cashbut you still have to know how "fix and flip" works, how to renovate something, how to negotiate.... what contracts to do, how long things take.... etcthat was the concept I liked about Gator, is that it's a team that passes that niche off to the other person, who is good at that - and they can all structure deals together.... you have the deal guy.... the money guy.... the fix and flipper guy, etc. -- and they find deals that could be good for all of them - and everyone is helping each otherI think BiggerPockets will be a potentially pretty reliable place - I know that there's different roles, "finders", "buyers", "sellers".... maybe I can just find deals, and connect people together, and get some kind of small finder's fee for it, or something.... ok so that first 10-20k is important to just be able to provide - when getting into this....

Nightly rates: Yes, but the benchmarks should also be lower.Year 2 turnaround: What strategies could we implement to project a higher ROI in our second year?

I'm looking to finance the project long term in a way that is helps me create positive cashflow.

Has anyone done such a project before?

This is our "8 x 8 project" - there, I've said it out loud to remain accountable! 

I have a long rennovation project I bought in the summer that I am currently working on and am looking to get a few turnkeys on top of that.

A project like that will probably take 6 months to 1 year, so what's your expectation for future rents?

Renovating usually means you need money to renovate.

In my experience, making on-time payments and making it clear that they are the first lender I am calling to fund a project have been necessary to building a strong relationship fast. 

I very much appreciate the honesty around the current state of the market in the area and I will make sure to adjust our projections accordingly.We are excited to start our journey and looking forward to contributing to the BiggerPockets community.