Can you find a way to capitalize on their work even if you don't buy "their deal".

It’s harder to BRRRR in the Tulsa area now due interest rates, you definitely have to buy at a great discount in order to be all in low enough toget all of your money out and the rents have to be high enough to still cash flow after all expenses (PITI, Mgmt, Vac’s, Rep/Maint, CapEx, HOAs, Util).Based on being “all in” $120K in order to BRRRR and still cash flow at least $300 mo:$120K cash out amount - at 7%/30 yr ($150K+ ARV)PI = $800 mo + Taxes $150 + Ins $150 = $1100mo PITIRENT would have to be at least $2000 mo- $1100 PITI- $200 mgmt (even if self mng, it’s exp for time)- $200 vacancies- $200 Rep/Maint & CapEx= $300 mo cash flow.

@Terrence StarkTypically the contract to buy the new house would specify that the builder/seller would deliver the type of plans you are referencing.

A key lesson here is buying at the right price; overpaying by $15K can make a big difference.

@David LewisRecommend you first figure out the property Class you want to invest in, THEN figure out the corresponding location to invest in.Property Class will typically dictate the Class of tenant you get, which greatly IMPACTS rental income stability and property maintenance/damage by tenants.If you apply Class A assumptions to a Class B or C purchase, your expectations won’t be met and it may be a financial disaster.If you buy/renovate a property in Class D area to Class A standards, what quality of tenant will you get?

You can contribute by finding deals or managing properties in exchange for a share of the profits.Lease Options: Control properties without owning them by renting with an option to buy, and potentially sublease for profit.Owner Financing: Buy properties directly from sellers willing to finance, bypassing traditional lenders and often requiring less upfront money.REIGs: Join real estate investment groups to pool funds with others for property investments.For a more hands-off approach, investing in turnkey properties in growing markets with minimal upfront investment would be ideal (like in the Southeast and Midwest of the country).

If you had 150k you could buy one 400k property with 8k property taxes that rents for 2500/mo or you could buy two 200k properties with say 3k property taxes per month each renting for 1800.

We buy by the case, pallet even on places like HotelSupply, HD Supply, etc. 

I was going to buy and rehab managing the process myself so I started calling contractors.

Buy a $15 blender at Walmart, and they'll try to sell you an extended warranty.