You can search for threads on Morris Invest to see a bit of what the latter looks like.This is the reason that, while many like to tout turnkey as being 'passive', I like to provide a caveat to that: turnkey is 99% passive AFTER you make the investment.

I can tell you without Nick Vertucci and the Radio round table having an hour radio show in LA touting 80 to 120k rentals  YES they sold for more back in 2002 than they do today. 

For example, salesmen tout the guaranteed return.

I've read in several places that oversaturation is occurring in most STR markets and that profitability isn't as great as it once was but those same sources also keep touting the merits of owning a STR when done right. 

However, the rentals are going to be the basis for our income (as they are now, we have no other jobs) so if we got to the point we couldn't manage them anymore, we would probably turn them over to a management company.We have very little leverage as we essentially have been purchasing "cash flow" and of course there's more of that with no mortgage payments.Multi family is touted often on these forums and of course has advantages but SFR is by far the easiest to get in and out of as the market is broad, not just other investors.

EnlargeRiver District will include about 8 million square feet of office, 500,000 square feet of retail, 1,000 hotel rooms and more than 4,000 residential units at full buildout.CRESCENT COMMUNITIESBy Ashley Fahey – Real Estate Editor, Charlotte Business Journal Nov 1, 2019, 4:56pm EDTThere's some uncertainty about whether both of the local developers that teamed up to map out a big project in west Charlotte are still working on it.River District, which covers nearly 1,400 acres between the Catawba River and Charlotte Douglas International Airport, was touted by executives at Crescent Communities and Lincoln Harris in 2016 as the last frontier for a large-scale, mixed-use development opportunity — akin to a Ballantyne — in Charlotte.The plan was for Crescent to spearhead the residential portion of the project, including apartments and for-sale housing, while Lincoln Harris would lead office and retail development.

Your posts are among the best at describing the subtleties of syndication tax benefits (compared to the hyperbole typically touted).

It’s not exactly the same and it’s on a smaller scale, but there are some in the STR world who tout the same horn with comments like “you can do it from an app anywhere in the world” and “it’s so easy I have the secret sauce to show you” until it isn’t.   

Thus you'll hear accusations of being predatory.Some of the haters around here just can't stand it if you make a great deal off market, though they tout the concept of buying at a discount as foundational to making a profit.

They are not out there touting how awesome they are, how you need to buy their next product etc.