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All Forum Posts by: Lonnie Freeman

Lonnie Freeman has started 7 posts and replied 34 times.

Post: BRRR Cash Out $250k Case Study

Lonnie FreemanPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 53
Originally posted by @Rob Beeler:

Thanks for sharing a great story, Lonnie! Did the bank have a specific CAP RATE or NOI requirement? I'm trying to determine what they view as a "good deal."

Hey Rob, that's a good question. The bank didn't have a specific cap rate or NOI requirement, their biggest requirements are usually LTV, DCR (debt coverage ratio 1.25x+), track record and liquidity. But the cap rate and NOI is determined by the appraisal and the financials (income / expenses). The cap rate can be radically different from 1 building/market to another, so you need to find the "market cap rate" for your building in that area and run your numbers on that. Regarding NOI, you will need to run your own financial model and provide that to the bank. Your income and expenses need to be realistic and match market rates (banks won't accept removing the management fee because your 'managing it yourself, so there's no expense'). The banks will put the market numbers and appraisal numbers into their own investment models, but you should provide them to show you know what your doing and give them a guide as to what you think you can achieve. Just make sure you match your market (rent levels, expenses, NOI, cap rate).

To answer your question about what a 'good deal' looks like: High DCR, high occupancy, market rents, operating at a higher cap rate then market, having 25%+ equity.

Hope this helps!

Post: BRRR Cash Out $250k Case Study

Lonnie FreemanPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 53
Originally posted by @Richie Pace:

Awesome deal, very inspiring!

 Thanks Richie! You can do it too!

Post: BRRR Cash Out $250k Case Study

Lonnie FreemanPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 53
Originally posted by @Brian Garrett:
Originally posted by @Lonnie Freeman:

@Brian Garrett Thanks for the feedback and no problem sharing my experience. I just want to help other people. Hope to find more of these deals but I realize this is a home run. I'll take double's all day! Do you purchase your MF in Florida or elsewhere in the country?

I'm trying to find deals locally but the market is red hot and very competitive here.

I'm going to ramp up my efforts after the holidays and see what I can make happen.

I've also started discussions with other investors out-of-state about potential partnerships as well.

 Same here! I'm in Columbus but Central Ohio is so hot and competitive, so I've been looking at markets in Ohio but just outside of Columbus. How are you finding your deals?

Post: BRRR Cash Out $250k Case Study

Lonnie FreemanPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 53

@Brian Garrett Thanks for the feedback and no problem sharing my experience. I just want to help other people. Hope to find more of these deals but I realize this is a home run. I'll take double's all day! Do you purchase your MF in Florida or elsewhere in the country?

Post: BRRR Cash Out $250k Case Study

Lonnie FreemanPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 53

I am closing on the re-finance on a multifamily in Ohio where we will cash out $250k and I wanted to share my case study with others so they can learn from our mistakes and successes. First, here are the quick numbers:

20 units - all 2 bedroom, 1.5 bath town house style units.

Purchased for $368k

Renovations: $175k

All in for $555k

New Appraisal: $1.1M 

Bank willing to loan 75% LTV = $825,000

Cash out on refi: $270k

So here's my case study: I have plenty of experience with single family/residential properties and creative deal structures but this was my very first commercial deal I'v purchased. I found the property through cold calling (my partner is a MF broker and has access to certain tools so could get the guys phone number when data basing). The seller happen to be in foreclosure and his property was distressed, 50% occupied, rents were way too low, and the property needed a lot of work done to it. He owed around $263k to the bank, but hadn't been paying the mortgage for a long time, so it was actually set to go to sheriff sale when we talked to him (we ended up closing 1 week prior to the sheriff sale). We ended up buying this property for $368k but bought the property subject to the existing mortgage. We brought about $105k cash to closing which went in the sellers pocket, and we kept the $263k mortgage in place and started making the mortgage payments. We raised an additional $150k from private lenders for the construction improvements. 

For the rehab and construction of the units, we used a combination of subs and GC to make the improvements to the property. I focused on the rehab and the contractors and hired a 3rd party professional property management company to focus on the marketing and lease up of the units and they did a killer job! We had weekly meetings with the property management team which helped keep everyone on the same page and allowed them to lease up the units as fast as we renovated them. 

We ended up renovating 12 out of 20 units and leasing them all up. The tenants we kept, we had sign new leases at increased rents. We bought the property in May and as of the October 1 rent roll we were 100% occupied and all 20 units have new/fresh leases signed at new/market rents. 

We talked to 10-12 local banks throughout the time we owned the property about what we wanted to do (re-fi after stabilizing) and continued to give them updates every month or two. Once we were 100% occupied the banks were willing to get serious, which we then narrowed down to 4-5 banks that were serious about us and our property. This part (talking with banks) was new for me and I wasn't sure how they would view a 'full time house flipper' when giving me a $1M dollar loan. It turns out, it was easier then I thought! We got pre-lim terms and concerns with 4-5 banks and paired that down to the 2 we liked the best and had them give us term sheets. We picked the bank with the best terms and fees (we were more concerned with terms then fees...we have a 10 year term with 25 year amortization, 4.5% interest rate, most the banks offered 5 year term and 25 year am, 4.75-5.5%). Like I said above, the re-fi process has been easy....2 years of personal tax returns, personal financial sheet, credit check, rent roll, and 2 year projections of the property. Note, I don't have w2 income and my 'job' has been flipping houses full time the last 4 years, so I didn't think banks would like to loan to me, but literally no issue (mostly because the property is such a good deal and well positioned). Bank is willing to give us 75% loan to value and no seasoning period. We provided the bank with the financials and where we think the value should be ($1M-$1.1M), and the final appraisal came in yesterday: $1,100,000. The bank is willing to loan us between $825,000. We are all in for $555k (with paying interest to our lenders), so we should put $270k+ in our pocket, if we choose to take all 75%. We might take 70% so we have a lower monthly mortgage payment and we cash flow higher, yet still can pay off our private lenders and put $215k in our pocket. 

This deal finished ahead of schedule and out performed our financial projections in terms of monthly rent amount and value, which we believe is partially due to our conservative underwriting but also in part to the current market conditions (gotta give credit where credit is due!) so we don't expect all our deals to be this good! 

In the end, lessons learned and advice I would give:

1. Go big. It's a lot easier then it seems. Once you rehab 1 unit, you have the scope of work to turn the next unit. Just add a couple commas and a couple zeros to your numbers. 

2. Interview tons of PM Companies and don't cheap out. The management company is almost more important than the actual property you buy. Good management can turn around a bad property and bad property management can ruin a good property. 

3. Talk with local and regional banks before you start your project and keep them updated throughout. Find the banks willing to build relationships and loan on 'smaller' commercial deals that big banks won't (because of loan size). Ask for their commercial loan requirements, they are similar but different at each bank. If they require borrower to have 10% skin in the game or a net worth equal to the loan amount and you don't meet either of those requirements, be transparent with the bank. They are OK with you bringing in a partner simply to meet the liquidity requirements. You will be surprised at what banks can do for you. 

4. Stay focused - these deals can go south, quickly, if you don't have a game plan and don't stay on top of executing it. But if you have a plan and follow it, you will be fine. 

I hope this short case study can help someone else or inspire them to take the next step in their business! I love flipping houses but after this commercial deal, I think I MIGHT love commercial MF properties more! Our goal is to purchase 200 units in 2018 with a minimum of 20 units per building (anything 20-200 units). 

Feel free to reach out with any questions or if you want to talk more about these types of deals. I'm here to help. 

Post: Seeking Private Lender 1st lien position at 40% LTV

Lonnie FreemanPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 53

Hello BP!

My company, Blue Chip Development Group (www.livebluechip.com), is growing in 2017 and 2018, which is great (sometimes stressful lol) but with our growth means growing our team. We are currently in contract to purchase a self storage facility 65% below market value (75% occupied and cash flowing though) and seeking a private lender that can loan $250,000 and be in 1st lien position on a $600k deal. Your investment will come with a promissory note and mortgage giving you lien position and will get recorded at closing. There is very little physical work needed, the units are just way under rented and not producing what market rents would produce. Here is a little background on the deal which will provide more info on why and how we got such a good deal and where the opportunity is. I have a full investment overview and offering memorandum with detailed financials for anyone interested. 

This 24/7 self storage facility with gated access consists of 157 storage units plus an additional 90 parking spaces for boat/RV/vehicle storage. The 3 acre site is in good physical condition and well maintained, has a 24/7 automatic gate with key code access, security cameras with mobile access, onsite management, and the property is very well lit with new light fixtures on all buildings and poles.

The current owner has owned the facility for 15+ years and is headed for retirement, which is the reason for selling. While the seller has kept up with the physical condition of the property, he has let go of the management/operation of the asset, and like anything that you give less attention to, it has been under performing. The seller admits he hasn't put much attention or effort into the storage facility the last couple years because he knew he would be retiring and "didn't want to work any harder then he had to" haha (literally what he told me oh the phone). He simply hasn't increased anyones rent or changed anything with his business in the last 4-5 years and admits his competitors are getting $15-$20 more per month then his units but since he knew he would be retiring soon he didn't change anything with his current business. That means opportunity for someone else! 

The Opportunity This is mostly a management and utilization increase play - the majority of value will be added via better overall management; increasing rents on the current tenants closer to market rent, filling up the occupancy with new tenants at market rents, improving management systems and processes, and upgrading the management technology/software.

- Out of 157 storage units, 119 are occupied/rented. 75% occupied

- Out of 90 boat/rv/vehicle parking spaces, only 5 are occupied/rented. 5.5% occupied

- Overall occupancy is 55%

119 occupied storage units out of 157 is not bad! However, these are rented below market rents by an average of $15/month per unit. Increasing rents on these current tenants alone will add over $200k in value ($15/month x 134 units x 12 months / 10% cap rate). Increasing occupancy and renting out the boat/rv parking spaces will add another $150k in value. (Cash flow analysis and Pro Forma to be be provided)

Regarding the 90 parking spaces: I drove all the storage facility comps in and around this area last Friday when I toured the facility, and ALL the comps are 90%+ FULL with boats/RVs/Vehicles, so there is proof of the demand for outdoor storage - the current owner is missing the 'boat', if you will (pun intended!)  

Exit Strategy

The exit strategy is to refinance with permanent debt after the asset is stabilized and hold in our rental portfolio for passive income. We have multiple banks willing to refinance with either no seasoning period or after 6 months of taking title. We estimate 9 months to stabilize the asset and another 1-2 months to close on the financing. 


The Numbers

Here are the quick numbers on this deal - I can send a full lending packet if you are interested in lending on this deal that will include an investment overview, current rents, market rents, comps, photos, and lending docs.

After Repair/Stabilized Value - $900,000-$950,000 based on conservative cap rate (9%-10%)

Purchase Price - $565,000

Renovation Cost - $35,000


**Scheduled Closing Date – Thursday December 28, 2017 (2 weeks)

Let me know if you are interested in learning more about this opportunity - I can provide the investment overview and private lending packet that includes more property details, historical financials, cash flow analysis, 2 year pro forma, sales comps, and photos.

Contact me for more details! [email protected] / 614-571-0910

Thanks in advance!

Post: $55k Short Term Private Lending Opportunity Columbus Ohio

Lonnie FreemanPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 53

Hey Bigger Pockets! If your a private lender or your capital is not working for you right now, then I would love to talk with you about our opportunities to work together. I am an experienced real estate investor in Columbus, Oh that is growing and buying more houses, which is great, but also means I need access to more private money. I've flipped over 90 properties here in Columbus over the last 4 years being full time, all with private money (except 2 with hard money). L lot of my lenders money is currently tied up, which is the reason for this post and growing my network! 

I currently have a property that I am seeking funding for pretty quickly. Below are the high level numbers, but if your interested in learning more and/or reviewing the lending packet, shoot me a message and let me know!

Purchase: $40k
Rehab: $15k
ARV: $85k

Seeking $55k for 3-4 months. Terms TBD and can be discussed! (Note and mortgage always provided for your security). 

Thanks in advance!

Post: Another Great Private Lending Opportunity w Experienced Team!

Lonnie FreemanPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 53

@Marvin S.Hey Marvin! Thanks for the post! The reason I call this a "cosmetic" rehab is because I don't have to replace furnace, AC, hot water tank, re-wire the house, re-drywall, re-roof, re-side, no foundation work, etc. The house is a small, ranch style house being 1,318 sf. The kitchen is a galley kitchen, and the 2nd full bathroom is extremely small. I do a lot of rehabs so get great pricing from my contractors, I have a few laborers at hourly pricing, and I have contractor accounts set up at multiple vendors to get supplies at great prices . My contractors basically quote 'install only' and I have all finish material delivered. My company has rehabbed over 80 houses in this market and have systems to estimate repairs - I use a repair estimate 'cheat sheet' to estimate repairs on a new house and the 'cheat sheet' is based on historical pricing from my prior rehab jobs.   

Post: Another Great Private Lending Opportunity w Experienced Team!

Lonnie FreemanPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 53

@Dave B. Most of my lenders earn between 8%-15% annualized returns depending on the deal, the dollar amount, and lien position / security. On a short term deal like this and the dollar amount,  I want to make sure it's still worth it for my lender. I also keep a steady flow of deals so looking to build a relationship with a private lender that is looking for the same thing (long term, consistent work). I have 7 houses/condos in some form of construction right now, and have 3 more in contract to buy, so I can keep a lenders money active. Let me know if your interested in talking and learning more. 

Post: Another Great Private Lending Opportunity w Experienced Team!

Lonnie FreemanPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 53

Hello BP!

My company, Blue Chip Development Group (www.livebluechip.com), has another great rehab property under contract and seeking funding for the project.

We are an experienced team with over 80 fix and flips in the last 3.5 years, with almost all being retail flips (not rentals). The subject property is in the same neighborhood as 4 others we've purchased in this area in the last 6 months, so we know the neighborhood, the housing construction, and the numbers very well.

Details and numbers below - Comparable package, repair estimate, and deal analyzer / rent analyzer available upon inquiry/request. Contact me for additional information if your interested in learning more!

Project Summary: 

This is mostly a cosmetic rehab that consists of new kitchen and baths: flooring, cabinets, counters, sinks, toilet, mirror. This home has hard wood floors throughout that we will sand and re-finish. The house 

The Numbers:

Purchase: $40k

Rehab: $15k

ARV: $85k-$90k

Ren Comps: $900/month

Seeking $55,000 for 4-6 months

-- Your investment will come with a promissory note and mortgage giving you lien position and will get recorded at closing.

Contact me for more details! [email protected] / 614-571-0910

Thanks in advance!