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All Forum Posts by: Jesse Fragale

Jesse Fragale has started 9 posts and replied 49 times.

Post: Syndication in Canada

Jesse FragalePosted
  • Investor
  • Toronto, Ontario
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 15

Hi gang!

With cap rates continuing to be suppressed it is getting harder and harder to find deals.  I am curious to know if any of you are syndicating deals in Canada and what types of cash on cash return, IRRs, and cap rates you need to pay investors.  With caps as low at <4% in some areas of the country I don't see the numbers working for syndication.

On a side note, for those of you syndicating(Canadians)--since we do not have LLCs here-- what structure are you using (limited partnership)?

Post: New Year, New Career in Real Estate. Make 2017 THE Year of REI

Jesse FragalePosted
  • Investor
  • Toronto, Ontario
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 15

Hi Laura,

I am thinking about coming from Toronto to attend.  How much of a focus on syndicating will there be?

Post: Partnerships - How to divide the piw

Jesse FragalePosted
  • Investor
  • Toronto, Ontario
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 15

@Jason E. thanks for the feedback.

@David Thompson that is what I was kind of thinking. I assume if I went the syndication route I would need to set up the LLC and distribute pref shares (or accrue them if there wasnt cashflow at the beginning). To your point though....as a concept...I could propose a similar structure and just have a partnership agreement; is that what you're getting at? Perhaps...like you said have an acquisition fee, a managing fee and maybe a proportionate share on the equity and cashflow.

Post: Partnerships - How to divide the piw

Jesse FragalePosted
  • Investor
  • Toronto, Ontario
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 15

Hi All,

First month at BP and its been awesome!

I am curious to get members opinions on how to split real estate when you have two 'managing partners' (manage all operations of the investment) and 2 or more investors.  Provided that all the partners have the exact same amount of equity in...should the managing partners receive a payment or more of the upside equity etc?  Or are there other creative solutions you've used with your investments.

For more clarity, my partner and I are commercial brokers.  We source and negotiate the deals and manage the properties and distribute (similar to syndication but all of us are equal equity investors) them to the 3 or 4 more investors (all long time friends).

Thanks!

Post: How much cash flow and cap rate is enough?

Jesse FragalePosted
  • Investor
  • Toronto, Ontario
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 15

@David Hanson my apologies! that should be a percentage of gross rent...you're correct.  Here's an interesting take on capex reserve...some will argue that it is not an operational expense and should not be capitalized (the article takes the opposite view): https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&sou...

One interesting relationship...not exactly 'interest rates' but related is that there is certainly a correlation between cap rates and the 10 year treasury note (I work in commercial real estate as a broker and its a spread we always keep an eye on).  The spread is at historic highs in many areas in the US and Canada.  When you see that spread increase, you could make the argument that there is more room for cap rate suppression...or higher values for real estate.  The spread itself is the 'risk premium' paid to investors to choose real estate over the 'risk-free' return of the treasury (or 10 year GoC Bond in Canada).

Post: How much cash flow and cap rate is enough?

Jesse FragalePosted
  • Investor
  • Toronto, Ontario
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 15

@David Hanson i often hear people looking at the spread between the mortgage rate and cap rate (for instance in Toronto a 5 year fixed may be 2.7% and a cap rate could be 4.8%) and immediately thinking its a cashflow deal if the number is positive. This is misleading and would only apply to interest only loans...as a result the rates cannot be looked at as if they were an interest only loan. In terms of DSCR, 1.00 is typically not acceptable to traditional lending institutions. In Canada, many lenders need >1.25. I would contact the underwriter/mortgage broker.

Lastly, I would recommend that you add a management figure (typically 4% of NOI for apartments), and a R&M (repair and maintenance) figure when calculating NOI...and by extension a 'cap rate'. Many investors overlook these items and find out the hard way once the building is professionally underwritten and the lender tells you what the real cap is. They may even include capex reserve ($250 per unit up here)...but I know it is a contentious topic--whether capex reserve is below or above the NOI line.

Post: Investment Property Strategies (what are you doing?)

Jesse FragalePosted
  • Investor
  • Toronto, Ontario
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 15

@Account Closed apartment buildings over 10 units

Post: Investment Property Strategies (what are you doing?)

Jesse FragalePosted
  • Investor
  • Toronto, Ontario
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 15

@Account Closed  Buy and Hold.  I've flipped a few student condos this year as well.

Post: Glad to be here! Looking for Canadian advice

Jesse FragalePosted
  • Investor
  • Toronto, Ontario
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 15

@Bryce Anderson Welcome Bryce.  You've come to the right place.  I would read some forums on BP and definitely check the podcast!

Post: Canadian investors

Jesse FragalePosted
  • Investor
  • Toronto, Ontario
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 15

@Chris Chang Hi Chris;

Toronto

Hamilton

North Oshawa 

Waterloo