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All Forum Posts by: Daniel Rutledge

Daniel Rutledge has started 18 posts and replied 87 times.

Thsnks for the comments guys. I'm mostly done we with my rehab and ended up using cash and credit cards for the rehab. I will check out Carolina lending. I'm also working with fund and grow and plan on taking a heloc to fund future rehabs.

Post: Fund & Grow Financing

Daniel RutledgePosted
  • Anderson, SC
  • Posts 91
  • Votes 40
Originally posted by @Donny Aldo:
Originally posted by @Maurice Colbert:

Update on my end as of right now I have $106k in credit cards and I’m the process of getting 2 more cards

 Bro reading your post gives me hope , damn near teared up, I literally watched you ask questions then sign up then boom you did everything and your results are amazing. Wow it's good to see you win!

They told me I have to wait a couple of months for my cards to season and refunded my money. When I tell you that I was so hurt about that u have no idea.

Seeing what u did Maurice keeps me pushing it really does. I wanna be signed up already

 What cards need to be seasoned? Were they not able to get you setup? 

Post: Fund & Grow Financing

Daniel RutledgePosted
  • Anderson, SC
  • Posts 91
  • Votes 40
Originally posted by @Maurice Colbert:

Update on my end as of right now I have $106k in credit cards and I’m the process of getting 2 more cards

If you don't mine me asking what were your stats prior to gaining these cards such as DTI and credit score? How long was it from the consultation to getting the first card? What have you used them for so far? I believe these can be very beneficial for a number of reasons especially if you are creative in how you utilize them for other than just swiping cards. Thanks.

Post: Fund & Grow Financing

Daniel RutledgePosted
  • Anderson, SC
  • Posts 91
  • Votes 40

I started the process for Fund and Grow this week and have scheduled my call for Tuesday. I will update this thread as I move forward with the process. In preparing for doing this I paid down my CC accounts to 27% but believe I have a plan for converting to cash. Since I paid down my account I assume at least one of them will send out CC checks to get me to fill them back up. If and when that happens I will short term convert the checks to cash and pay off other debt and then balance transfer that balance to the ones from Fund and Grow to remove them from my personal credit. If I receive enough on the cards I will also transfer my wifes CC balances so she will qualify for doing the program with me. If any of our multiple CC accounts offer balance transfer checks we will continue to convert to cash, pay off other debt or use to pay contractors and then balance transfer into the business cards. Seems like a viable way to get cash and slowly move things off of my personal report making it easier to qualify for financing on future properties. Again, I have just started so I will update. 

Post: Property tax question in Anderson SC

Daniel RutledgePosted
  • Anderson, SC
  • Posts 91
  • Votes 40

I have a question about property taxes and in how investors are calculating what their taxes will be when doing deals. In my state of SC the way property tax is assessed for rentals is (assessed value x .06 and that times .1 but that does not include additional taxes that businesses are hit with that owner occupied isn't. A law in my state has owner occupied as being exempt from school taxes but rentals are still taxed. Anyone in my state that is familiar with specific taxes that are on top of the normal property tax or in how to calculate these numbers. Are you looking at the taxes in this type of detail when analyzing a deal and if not what formula are you using when you run your numbers. From my estimate different taxes in different cities on rentals can vary by a substantial amount and could make a good deal go bad fast. Any feedback from the experts or anyone in my area with more experience?

Originally posted by @Russell Holmes:
@Daniel Rutledge will you be getting most or all of your money out on the refi? Do you have a timeline for doing so? I've heard many say 12 months are required. If so, are you cash flowing some even with the short term private lender and credit card? sounds like a good BRRRR. Many look for higher margins, but in today's market you nailed it with a good one. The purchase and rental price for the size house sounds like my market. Most homes that size are closer to $200k with slim margins but the light rehab dated ones in otherwise nice neighborhoods are the hidden gems when the price is right. What was the original asking price?

Hi Russell, I will refinance at either 3 months with a private asset based company called Corevest or at 6 months with my normal lender but I am not sure which one I will do for this home. Doing it with Corevest is more expensive but can be done sooner and is based on the asset. It will also allow me to keep the debt off of my credit report so it will not hurt my DTI for other deals as I need to have the income seasoned for 12 months to count it for a conventional mortgage. I will pull enough out to pay off the private lender but will still have some money in the deal but that doesn't bother me as I will still have good equity and cash flow. While paying the private lender I will basically be breaking even but not losing anything. If I can get a tenant in soon I will get a full month of rent prior to making a payment to the lender so that's nice.

Thanks, I posted the deal in the Success Stories!

Originally posted by @Odie Ayaga:

Awesome congrats! You should post over on the Success Stories forum too!

Hi all! I recently landed and closed on my first deal after a year of listening to BP and preparing to take the plunge. I was actually still a few months early based on my plan but I was offered a deal and found a way to make it happen. I purchased the home with private money which funded all but 1k of the purchase price. The home was purchased for 141k with an ARV of 189k with rehab costs of 10k. Since the lender loaned all but 1k of the purchase I am total out of pocket including holding cost for the first month of about 14k. So 14+141=152k all in and the home will rent for $1650. After I refinance and pay off the private lender I have about $900 a month in PITI so a great spread between the two. The home is a 3/2 and over 1600 sq ft with a .70 acre lot. Rehab is mostly cosmetic included total paint throughout which my wife and I have already done including patching multiple holes in the walls, replacing some baseboards, caulking and light work. I am replacing carpet in all bedrooms and pulled the old carpet out myself to save money. The biggest cost is doing Vinyl siding to cover up the 1980s wood siding that is deteriorating and is an ugly brown. The home is in the sweet spot in my city and in the best school district. It is less than 3 miles to lowes, Home Depot, shopping and a hospital. The rest of the homes in the neighborhood are all updated and with nice landscaping. It truly was the home holding the neighborhood back and will now be in line with everyone else. The home across the street is listed at 209k but with a larger sq ft. The majority of the rehab cost is on a credit card so almost no cash was used on this deal. How did I do? Thanks BP for giving me the tools to chase my dream.

Yes closed last week. First payment is July 1st but i will begin preleasing next week. It will rent higher than the hard money loan and i will refinance ASAP. 

Originally posted by @Odie Ayaga:

@Daniel Rutledge did you end up going forward with this individual as your lender?

Post: Fund & Grow Financing

Daniel RutledgePosted
  • Anderson, SC
  • Posts 91
  • Votes 40
I have a ton of available cc for personal use but if you max those cards out under your name it crushes your fico score. I believe the goal for most here is to hold debt outside of the personal fico and dti world.



Originally posted by @Tae C.:

All, wanted to share this update as it might prove to be helpful for some of you that are wanting this kind of credit access, but unsure of wanting to go through with paying a hefty fee, be it Fund and Grow or otherwise.  

As I mentioned above, I received my refund in full and they had great customer service throughout the process.  But it got me thinking that I could maybe just do this on my own and not have to pay $3500 for someone else to do it, so I was talking to a buddy of mine who is a master of credit card "hacks", and he helped me get some ideas to proceed.  

Last week I decided on four specific cards to go with - I focused on 0% APR for both purchases and balance transfers for at least 12 months (with no annual fees of course), but it turns out all of them are 14 - 18 months. I chose to take the personal CC route vs. the business CC route for various reasons - at the end of the day, it's all pretty similar to me as with how new my business entity is (8-9 months) I would've had to back it up with my personal credentials anyway. In the end, I got approved for 4 cards at a total of $56,800. My primary usage of the cards will be to utilize the 0% balance transfers directly towards my HELOC to open more of it back up for continued use on a couple flips that are going long (and one way over budget), and then I'll just pay them off when the flips are done accordingly. My HELOC is at prime + 2% (it was a 100% LTV, hence the higher rate but got great cash access), so I'll be saving quite a bit on the interest in the meantime. I currently have the balance transfers pending.

All that to say - VERY possible to do this on your own and access a nice chunk of credit without having to pay thousands of dollars to have someone do it for you.  All it took was the time to research the cards that fit my needs, fill out the one page online application, and hit submit.  If anyone wants more details on the process, feel free to PM me.  Hope this helps!