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All Forum Posts by: Michael L.

Michael L. has started 3 posts and replied 149 times.

Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

Michael L.Posted
  • Investor
  • East Bay, CA
  • Posts 156
  • Votes 48

@Michael F. damn....sorry to hear about your negative experience thus far.  Please keep us posted!

@Sarah Lam I've been very fortunate to not had any turnover or vacancies since my purchases, which has probably been my biggest benefit.  My experience seems to mirror that of other BP and even non-BP folks that have purchased with Elite.  It'd be good to get greater stats on experiences, which was one of hopes for starting this thread.  There's also the turnkey-reviews.com site with more datapoints as well folks should check out.

Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

Michael L.Posted
  • Investor
  • East Bay, CA
  • Posts 156
  • Votes 48
Originally posted by @Hans Grubisic:

Hi Michael,  Read through everything in this thread and really appreciate the info as I'm looking at possibly purchasing a property through Elite also.  Given your overall experience, would you purchase another building from them in the future?  Has their property management improved in the time you've worked with them?  Thanks much!

 Great questions.

1) Would I buy from them again?  Absolutely, but not in So Chicago.  I already have 4 doors there and would like to diversify geographically if I were to invest in more properties.  I've heard they are expanding to some niche areas in So California.

2) Elite's PM and Alex especially have been terrific.  I'd say they've always been great, but they have done a few things along the way that have surprised me, such as appealing my property taxes without a word from me.  They've also done things like scheduling the meter installation by the water utility, handle this recent abatement issue quickly, etc.

Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

Michael L.Posted
  • Investor
  • East Bay, CA
  • Posts 156
  • Votes 48
Originally posted by @Larry Fried:

@Joe Chin @Yohannes Kifle I think that @Michael L. is including taxes and insurance in his mortgage payment as escrows, but I could be wrong, and will let Michael clear that up.

 Larry's correct, the mortgage payment acounts for property taxand insurance.   I do have to pay IL state income tax soon :P

Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

Michael L.Posted
  • Investor
  • East Bay, CA
  • Posts 156
  • Votes 48
Originally posted by @Ivan Z.:

Hi Michael,

Is the principle included in the 17k in profits or excluded. Great post, been following for a while now! 

 Does not include principle.  There are other benefits like depreciation and other deductions, but I wanted to keep it pretty simple.  Principle pay down for the year was around $3500 me thinks.

Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

Michael L.Posted
  • Investor
  • East Bay, CA
  • Posts 156
  • Votes 48

One of my fully subsidized tenants went from 100% subsidized by CHA, to roughly 50%, back to 100% in the course of 1 month!  -- Fully Paid/No Balance

A unit in my 1st duplex went into ABATEMENT on 12/1!  Luckily all those repair costs bought the unit up to par and the unit passed inspection 12/20.  Waiting on CHA to make the back/current payments. -- ~$2500 due

Tenant with 60% subsidy decided to stay put I assume.  They are still behind, but seems to always come through eventually. -- $450 due

Last tenant is 100% subsidized...no issues.  -- No Balance

I had quite a scare coming back from the holidays with the word abatement in the Tenant Notes, but super glad Elite handled it.  I did not hear a peep from them, which could be good or bad depending on how you look at it.

Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

Michael L.Posted
  • Investor
  • East Bay, CA
  • Posts 156
  • Votes 48

Happy New Year everyone!  So, I haven't checked my properties in a while and there is a lot to go over.  On the bright side the PM (Elite) appears to be on top of it.

As promised earlier, I broke down all the numbers for 2016 (my first full year with 2 duplexes).

Landscaping $ (1,920.00)
Rent $ 48,700.00
Commission $ (3,902.00)
Maintenance $ (1,850.00)
Late Fee $ 75.00
Water $ (2,350.00)
Electricity $ (70.00)
To Me-> $ 38,683.00 

Of course I still had to pay the mortgages :)...roughly $21,000.

Numbers above were rounded a tad for convenience.

So about 17K for 4 doors, which comes in slightly better than Elite's projections.  I was surprised by this since the latter part of the year saw a significant rise in maintenance costs.  Will follow-up momentarily with details on the 'happenings'.

Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

Michael L.Posted
  • Investor
  • East Bay, CA
  • Posts 156
  • Votes 48

Quick update:  one of my fully subsidized tenants had their subsidy reduced from 100% to about 50%...that's pretty cold-blooded of CHA to do this right before the holidays :( . I'm hoping the tenant is doing much better financially to be able to comfortably pay the additional amount and to improve the quality of their life. 

Overview: 2 tenants paying roughly 50% of the rent (CHA covering the other 50%), 1 tenant 100% subsidized, and 1 tenant paying 25% with CHA covering the rest.

Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

Michael L.Posted
  • Investor
  • East Bay, CA
  • Posts 156
  • Votes 48
Originally posted by @Patti Robertson:

Michael L - As long as you can identify that the damages are the tenant's responsibility based on the wording of your lease, you can charge the inspection repairs back to them.  Normal wear and tear wouldn't apply, but if you are repairing a door the tenant put a hole in, for instance, the tenant is clearly responsible.  We fix it to get through the inspection, then bill the tenant's ledger.  Put them on a payment plan, if necessary, to get it paid back.  They can almost always get help with a charity in the worst case scenario.  We sometimes even take the tenant to court if they don't attempt to make payments.  If you get a judgment and notify the case worker, the tenant will have to pay off the judgment amount in order to get their voucher reissued to move.  This ensures you will be paid back eventually, or at least puts the ball in your court.

Jesse - I hope the political climate will result in more people working, but I don't see housing vouchers going away.  I think putting more pressure on voucher holders who aren't working out go out and get a job will be a good thing.

 Thanks for the tip.  I'll check in with the PM on the specifics of the work items.  This year seems more than the previous year, but the previous year they did refer to it as normal wear and tear.

Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

Michael L.Posted
  • Investor
  • East Bay, CA
  • Posts 156
  • Votes 48
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Looks like a ton of unexpected maintenance.  Has anyone added them up.   I didnt read the whole thread....

 Hi Zeke, great suggestion.  I'll total everything from this year and compare it 2016 once January is here, so everyone can see the summary of the numbers.

Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

Michael L.Posted
  • Investor
  • East Bay, CA
  • Posts 156
  • Votes 48
Originally posted by @David Fitch:

Do you have 4 units, or 4 buildings?

 4 units...for now :)