Facebook lays off 11,000 people

Facebook lays off 11,000 people

Austin, TX · Member since 2019 · 5k+ posts · 5k+ votes

And So It Begins (once again):

In the past couple of weeks:

-- Facebook = 11,000 people unemployed (13% of it's employees gone in one day)

-- Twitter = 50% of it's people laid off 

-- Zillow = 5% of its people laid off 

-- Peloton = 12% of it's people laid off 

-- Tesla = 10% of it's Salaried people (vs assembly workers)

-- Juul Vaping 400 people gone.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/meta-cut-more-than-11000-jobs-one-biggest-us-layoffs-this-year-2022-11-09/

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As the higher paying jobs are lost, the people may leave the area. 

With the decrease in good paying jobs, the secondary job workforce will also decrease. 

These secondary workers work at service related businesses that support the higher paid workers, for example:
-- Food service workers
-- Retail workers
-- Bank workers
-- Health care workers (including physicians and dentists as the Health Insurance for all of the laid off workers is now gone)

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For each higher paying job lost it is said 2 to 3 secondary jobs will also go (laid off). 

With both the higher payed and secondary workers unemployed, the need for rental housing (ability to afford it)  in the area may decrease--possibly leading to lower rents. 

Just my 2 cents.

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Bruce WoodruffPro Member
Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
3y

I thought employment numbers were up? :-)

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  • Member since 2022 · 2 posts · 1 vote
    3y

    That makes sense. I wonder though how much that applies to the tech jobs. I'm betting a lot of those people worked from home, which could have been anywhere on the planet.

  • Investor · Clairemont, CA · Member since 2011 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    You can add:
    -Stripe = 1,100 or 14%
    -Lyft = 700 or 13%
    -Redfin = 13%
    -Coinbase = 1,100 or 18%
    And quite a few others:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/0...

  • Austin, TX · Member since 2019 · 5k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    3y

    If this keeps up and more employers get rid of mass amounts of people, based on current data %'s maybe we will see a 13% to 18% shrink in rents or sales price in some areas.

    I assume lending/banking will be the next industry to announce major layoffs, then health care as insurance is canceled.

    (Hopefully you keep your feathers numbered for just such an ocassion) Foghorn Leghorn.

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    3y

    I thought employment numbers were up? :-)

  • Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2018 · 43 posts · 20 votes
    3y

    In 2020 META had 58k active jobs. In 2022 with the rush in hiring they went to 85k active jobs. A loss of 11k brings them down to 74k now. Still above past amounts. Like a lot of tech companies out there they over hire when market is super hot and have a change of heart later. 

    I would view the company total job count number in 2022 to today and minus out the layoff number.

  • Cameron MoorePro Member
    Insurance Agent · DFW, TX · Member since 2021 · 348 posts · 245 votes
    3y

    But people always need a place to sleep! Real estate for the win!!! 

  • Travis TimmonsPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Ellsworth, ME · Member since 2021 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    It's a Patagonia vest recession. Unrealistic valuations and P/E ratios led to a bit of over hiring. The job market is still strong even if Zuck continues to burn cash on the metaverse and lays off another 20k employees. 

    People don't go broke when times are bad. It's the decisions that they made when times were good that catch up with them when the market turns. 

  • Bill SchrimpfBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Reno, NV · Member since 2014 · 349 posts · 189 votes
    3y

    @Scott Mac - What is missing from the layoff data and its impact on rents is where all the Patagonia vest peeps, (@Travis Timmons - LMAO) are living.  Of the 11k jobs, are those primarily concentrated in one city or dispersed around the organization worldwide?  

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  • Investor · Colorado Springs · Member since 2021 · 58 posts · 39 votes
    3y

    Maybe they'll fill all those IRS positions lol jk hope not! 

  • Austin, TX · Member since 2019 · 5k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Crisselda Clark:

    Maybe they'll fill all those IRS positions lol jk hope not! 

    I think the economy worked better when the IRS was sending out stimulus check to people (refunding their taxes) who worked, like they handout to the vast plethora of people who do not work.

    Now it seems like they want to claw that money back, and are nose diving the economy in the process (which will probably cause a lot of suffering).

    Lets see if more huge layoffs happen before the holiday season, or (hopefully) maybe this will be it (???)

    But if they keep making things go up in price with inflation and keep the interest rates going up, I don't see people having as much money to spend and that is what drives many parts of the economy. How much "Spend" Joe W2 has at the end of the month.

  • Elbert O.Pro Member
    Member since 2022 · 32 posts · 23 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Matt Devincenzo:

    You can add:
    -Stripe = 1,100 or 14%
    -Lyft = 700 or 13%
    -Redfin = 13%
    -Coinbase = 1,100 or 18%
    And quite a few others:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/0...

    Google and Amazon will be next, probably early next year.
  • Jon KellyPro Member
    Investor · Bethlehem, PA · Member since 2016 · 929 posts · 951 votes
    3y

    @Scott Mac Where are the people going to go? Seems like there will be a higher demand for rentals than ever... 

  • Investor · Scottsdale Austin Tuktoyaktuk · Member since 2021 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Jon Kelly:

    @Scott Mac Where are the people going to go? Seems like there will be a higher demand for rentals than ever... 

    Looks to me like some are here:
    Street after street after street after street including side streets


    'City of a Thousand': Downtown Phoenix's tent city explodes at alarming rate

    PHOENIX - Located within a pocket of streets and sidewalks in downtown , the has exploded as there are more than a thousand unsheltered people living on the streets in this area known as "the zone."

    There's been a nearly 450% increase in people camped out on the streets in one concentrated area since April 2021. You may have passed by it or even driven through it.

  • Elbert O.Pro Member
    Member since 2022 · 32 posts · 23 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Account Closed:
    Quote from @Jon Kelly:

    @Scott Mac Where are the people going to go? Seems like there will be a higher demand for rentals than ever... 

    Looks to me like some are here:
    Street after street after street after street including side streets


    'City of a Thousand': Downtown Phoenix's tent city explodes at alarming rate

    PHOENIX - Located within a pocket of streets and sidewalks in downtown , the has exploded as there are more than a thousand unsheltered people living on the streets in this area known as "the zone."

    There's been a nearly 450% increase in people camped out on the streets in one concentrated area since April 2021. You may have passed by it or even driven through it.

    Coming to a major metropolitan city near you 
  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Elbert O.:
    Coming to a major metropolitan city near you 

     Already there in most of them. Have you been to the West Coast lately?

  • Austin, TX · Member since 2019 · 5k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Jon Kelly:

    @Scott Mac Where are the people going to go? Seems like there will be a higher demand for rentals than ever... 

    Those who qalify may earn less than during the good times, making rent amounts charged per month stall against inflation, or go down.

    People move in with relatives and freinfd.
  • Rental Property Investor · St. Louis, MO · Member since 2022 · 125 posts · 124 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Travis Timmons:

    People don't go broke when times are bad. It's the decisions that they made when times were good that catch up with them when the market turns. 

    @Travis Timmons Need to include that one in your book! 

  • Matthew CrivelliBusiness Member
    Lender · MA · Member since 2021 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y

    Tech companies, real estate and the service industry are taking the biggest hit right now. 

    When Americans get start getting squeezed, first credit card debt balloons then they have to starting cutting somewhere. 

    We all know why R.E. companies are hurting lol...the rates are killer...

    Essentially, we are paying for our sins...shutting down the country, massive government spending & the FEDS QE / cheap money. Which in turn created our inflation issues. 

    Honestly though, we are still rolling here, BUT I have a feeling the pain is just beginning.  We need the jobs market to slow down so we can tame inflation. necessary evil at this point.

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  • Travis TimmonsPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Ellsworth, ME · Member since 2021 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    @Account Closed that's about the only piece of advice that my dad ever gave me. It's a good one. 

    Jamie Dimon (Chase CEO) dropped a good line a few months ago regarding the definition of a recession. Someone asked him, "What is a recession?" - 2 consecutive quarters of GDP decline, etc...he said, "A recession? - it's something that happens every 7 years." Of course, that's on average and it's been over 7 years, but I like that perspective. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Matthew Crivelli:

    We all know why R.E. companies are hurting lol...the rates are killer...

    Rates are not killer, they are normalizing. The fact that banks/investors were stupid/scared/desperate enough to lend money for 30 year terms below the historical rate of inflation doesn't mean current rates are killer. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Erie, PA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

    I thought employment numbers were up? :-)


    Didn't you hear? The economy is strong and the border is secure!

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Karl B.:
    Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

    I thought employment numbers were up? :-)


    Didn't you hear? The economy is strong and the border is secure!

    🤣
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