Laundromat in Wyoming

Laundromat in Wyoming

Investor · Member since 2017 · 83 posts · 46 votes

Investment Info:

commercial investment investment.

Purchase price: $180,000
Cash invested: $110,000

This investment has tons of potential and started making us money on day 1. It's an old outdated laundromat turned new, comfy and cozy laundromat.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

I was interested in freedom and this seemed to have some answers towards that goal. I hated the idea that it was in Wyoming, because I didn't want to live there again, but I realized I could easily manage a laundromat with my one-year old in tow. The huge office helped, because my husband wants to work on his own software and that is an excellent place to do it; it means we could easily be on-site while accomplishing other things as well. The 4-plex across the street made it more interesting.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Like most of our investments, it just so happened that we found it accidentally. We were not looking for a laundromat, but it was interesting. One of the things I love the most about us is that we are open-minded and that is what allowed us to explore and ultimately go through with this deal.

How did you finance this deal?

We needed to tap into equity for this deal, so we refinanced all our SFH and financed the laundromat in a portfolio loan. It was the most exhausting loan I have closed to date. We are thorough and very particular about our numbers, so it was surprising that the bank wanted even more than I did on this deal. We got it done on a loan at 5.15% with a 5/5 ARM on a 25 year amm and 10 year balloon. On this deal I got to call some shots on terms (5/5 instead of 5/1 ARM and lower int than quoted).

How did you add value to the deal?

We mostly gutted the laundromat. We bought brand new washer extractors, took out the horrible floor (we painted it), added a play area, and carpet/paint to office. We are still working on the laundromat every chance we get, as it's not even close to done; however, customers are in love! We bought recliners, table and chairs, offer high-speed wifi, and carpeted a play area for kids. It's a hit! The washers are the most amazing part to me, but customers love the atmosphere.

What was the outcome?

I guess I already answered that. Our customers can wash AND dry their clothes in under an hour or less than the competition; they can lounge in the recliners or work on their laptop with our wifi; their children can play with toys instead of ask when they get to leave every 3 minutes. The outcome is relaxed customers who are thankful that we listened to their suggestions from the survey we put out before we closed on the laundromat.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Sometimes even conservative numbers can be low. We don't cash flow as much as our very conservative numbers said we would, but we also only have a total of 12 washers (4-4 load washer extractors, 2-6 load washer extractors, 4-4 load washers and 2-1 load top-load washers). It is an excellent investment and we hope to grow in the coming years. Everything was a challenge with this deal, from the asbestos tiles to the toddler who got into everything I was trying to clean/fix.

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Specialist · Anniston, AL · Member since 2013 · 59 posts · 32 votes
7y

Laundromats are great. I have 5 of them and I’m open to any questions. 

A lot of my info is posted on Laundromat How To dot com. 

They have some challenges but in the right market and the right amenities they do well. 

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  • Mindy JensenPro Member
    BiggerPockets Money Podcast Host · Longmont, CO · Member since 2014 · 7k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    7y

    What city is this laundromat in? Also, a friend has a website, https://laundromats101.com/start-here/ all about laundromats. They bought their first one a few years ago, and have put their best tips and learning experiences into that site and a book.

  • Specialist · Anniston, AL · Member since 2013 · 59 posts · 32 votes
    7y

    Laundromats are great. I have 5 of them and I’m open to any questions. 

    A lot of my info is posted on Laundromat How To dot com. 

    They have some challenges but in the right market and the right amenities they do well. 

  • Jerry W.Pro Member
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    Investor · Thermopolis, WY · Member since 2012 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y

    I know where this laundromat is hehe, I actually talked to a few folks about it.  I am glad to see someone making it functional business.  Congratulations.

  • Investor · Member since 2017 · 83 posts · 46 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Mindy Jensen:

    What city is this laundromat in? Also, a friend has a website, https://laundromats101.com/start-here/ all about laundromats. They bought their first one a few years ago, and have put their best tips and learning experiences into that site and a book.

     It’s in Green River. That’s awesome! I jokingly tell my husband this one is just our first. I fell in love with real estate and that is where my passion is, but the laundromat brings unique opportunities. We are open 24/7 and I spend less than 3 hours a week there these days.

  • Investor · Member since 2017 · 83 posts · 46 votes
    7y

    @Ken Barrett that’s awesome! I may just have to take you up on that! Are your laundromats manned or unmanned?

    @Jerry W. that’s awesome! You’ll have to come check it out some day! I’m glad we found it! It’s been interesting to learn about the equipment and such; much different than real estate!

  • Jerry W.Pro Member
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    Investor · Thermopolis, WY · Member since 2012 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y

    I was born in Rock Springs, but didn't grow up there, my mom is from Green River.  I will try to give a short version of the story about how Green River became the County seat.  Originally the County seat was in South Pass City from the gold rush.  Apparently some of the folks working with the county records were from Green River and their spouses lived there as housing was in short supply in South Pass City.  Well some of them became so dissatisfied they loaded up the wagon one night with the county records and deeds, and other important documents, and left in the cover of night and traveled back to Greeen River and set up shop in a building there.  They actually lost some of the official county records in the dark during the trip.  So by default Green River became the county seat then.  it is a story my grandfather told me.  He was born in South Pass City and my great grandfather's house still is there and has some folks living in it.

  • Specialist · Anniston, AL · Member since 2013 · 59 posts · 32 votes
    7y

    @Christina Linn  All of mine are 24/7 but only one has attendants from 7-6. That’s where we do our Drop off. 

  • Investor · Member since 2017 · 83 posts · 46 votes
    7y

    @Ken Barrett that’s awesome! We are working on new lockers for drop off and pick up. We used to have lockers from Ikea with combo locks from Amazon, but they would just break when we were changing codes, so we gave up. My husband is writing code for an iPad interface to allow customers to do it all on their own. I am so excited for it to be done! We offer pick up and delivery too.

  • Rental Property Investor · Westminster, CO · Member since 2016 · 124 posts · 39 votes
    6y

    @Christina Linn @Ken Barrett

    Hi Ken & Christina, I'm new to the laundromat world (Denver area) in early phases of research on location and looking into acquisition targets. Any advice you can give this newbie?

  • Investor · Member since 2017 · 83 posts · 46 votes
    6y

    @Account Closed the only advice I can offer for this stage is to do your research.  Due diligence is so important for any investment.  Are you buying the property or just the business?  From the sounds of it, this is a laundromat that you are purchasing - not creating, right?

  • Real Estate Agent · Fullerton, CA · Member since 2016 · 140 posts · 103 votes
    6y

    @Christina Linn congrats on the laundromat! I'm a multistore owner and currently have a top member blog post showing how the cash flow from Laundromats is the fastest way to financial freedom. So obviously I think you're a genius :)

    Let me know if you have any questions that come up that I can help with. I've been in the industry for a while. 

    Best of luck expanding that portfolio! And again, I'd love to be a resource for you if you need anything!

  • Real Estate Agent · Fullerton, CA · Member since 2016 · 140 posts · 103 votes
    6y

    @Obi E. Hey Obi! I'm a multi-store laundromat owner. I'd be glad to answer any questions you have. 

    In terms of some basics to know, I'd say

    1. make sure any laundromat you consider buying is in a great location with renters in the area and good visibility

    2. know the condition of the machines, plumbing, electrical and boiler before you buy

    3. Make sure you have a reasonable, long-term lease in place before you buy

    4. And perhaps most importantly, utilize a knowledgeable, experienced third party (whose income doesn't depend on you purchasing the laundromat) to help you through your first purchase at least. Unfortunately there are still a number of untrustworthy laundromat brokers and owners out there who take advantage of newbies (not all, but enough that it makes it worth it to have someone double check for you)

    Let me know if you have any specific questions or need some input. Good luck!

  • Contractor · Eureka, CA · Member since 2015 · 100 posts · 64 votes
    6y

    @Jordan Berry Can you send me the link to your article? Either here in comments for everyone to see or DM. I'd love to give it a read!

  • Real Estate Agent · Fullerton, CA · Member since 2016 · 140 posts · 103 votes
    6y

    @Zack Thiesen I posted a link to the Bigger Pockets page that has the article and it was removed. Sorry. I'll DM you and anyone else interested in reading it. Let me know if I can answer any questions. I'd love to hear what you think about it if you get a chance to read it. Thanks man!

  • Investor · Memphis, TN · Member since 2016 · 279 posts · 257 votes
    6y

    @Account Closed - We bought a failing laundromat in Memphis and our biggest mistakes were:  not having a plumber evaluate before purchase and not negotiating a better and longer lease.  Best of luck!

  • Rental Property Investor · Westminster, CO · Member since 2016 · 124 posts · 39 votes
    6y

    @Christina Linn Im hoping to convince one of the set of locations I have filtered down to sell to me

  • Rental Property Investor · Westminster, CO · Member since 2016 · 124 posts · 39 votes
    6y

    @Jordan Berry thanks for the advice! Yes please send the link

  • Rental Property Investor · Westminster, CO · Member since 2016 · 124 posts · 39 votes
    6y

    @Sam Wilson that is really good advice!

  • NV · Member since 2019 · 254 posts · 57 votes
    6y

    @Account Closed what did you end up doing? I'm just entering this asset class so any advice/tips/things to know you could offer is appreciated!

  • Rental Property Investor · Westminster, CO · Member since 2016 · 124 posts · 39 votes
    6y

    @Rene D. I ended up plotting out the metro Denver area on a map and identifying all laundromats and available spaces for lease. It took many hours but was quite interesting to see all the clusters of laundromats. I ultimately decided to pause on it because I would rather use cashflow from more rentals to invest in a laundromat - seemed like the path of least risk. I then researched ATMs and realized that may actually be a much lower barrier of entry (~2K) and produce very good cashflow I can then use to accelerate my savings for more rentals. Then COVID-19 happened. So Im very interested in jumping into the ATM world when everything stabilized. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Fullerton, CA · Member since 2016 · 140 posts · 103 votes
    6y

    @Christina Linn Hi Christina! I own laundromats in LA. I'd love to connect and hear more about your story. I talk with a lot of laundromat owners from all over on my podcast and website and am always fascinated to talk with laundromat owners. Congrats on the deal!

  • Investor · Denver CO · Member since 2020 · 17 posts · 4 votes
    6y

    Hey Jordan Berry,  I'm seriously considering getting into this world and would appreciate any good advice. I'd love to connect. Thanks!

  • Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 81 posts · 25 votes
    3y

    Do you still own laundry mats?

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