22 Years Old with 20 Units in 10 Months!

22 Years Old with 20 Units in 10 Months!

Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes

10 months ago I was driving up and down every road in this new town of Iron Mountain MI trying to get a feel for the quality of the neighborhoods and characteristics of the market. I still had a few weeks of college left but was likely going to be starting a job in the town after graduation. Having already understood that multi family properties was where I wanted to focus my attention I wanted to take a look at every apartment complex or 4+ unit structure I could find. Knowing I could only afford 4 units as my first purchase I passed by a large complex on a small lake in the center of town and said to my mother who was in the car with me… “Wow, that would be amazing to own!” Given the size of the building, location, and fact that the numbers on the carports went up to 16 I shrugged it off knowing there was no way I could ever afford something like that in the near future.

The day before graduation I received my job offer, and 2 days after graduation I submitted an offer on a 4 unit building in the hopes of living in one unit while renting out the others. I wanted to renovate the units with the idea that within 6 months I could be living rent free with my tenants paying all my bills. After negotiations and inspections I closed on my first deal in June 2015, began my job, and began renovations. 5 months later I had the first major renovations completed and got the building full to achieve my goal of living rent free before the new year.

In October 2015, during the renovations of my last vacant unit my carpet installer gave me a tip on a 16 unit building. So being young and ambitious I figured, “what the hell, why not call and see what the deal looks like.” Well, it ended up being Crystal Lake, that 16 unit that caught my eye on my first property hunt through the town.

After analyzing the numbers, viewing a few units in the property, trying to find investors interested in a partnership and exhausting my network I had to make a phone call and acknowledge my inability to move forward on the deal(I was 100% honest the entire time about my situation). I explained that while I clearly like the deal, unless the owners could provide some sort of owner financing (in the very first conversation the owners were clear about not wanting to do any owner financing) then I couldn't likely make an offer as I didn't have the financing to back it up.

Long story short, the owners came back with an owner financing option, we negotiated and had a signed purchase agreement by the end of January 2016. After getting multiple banks to negotiate on the financing I was able to secure a commercial loan in 1st position with the owner financing in second position all under very favorable terms. I walked into closing today and was only required to put $11,950 down on the building.

If anyone is interested in learning more about my financing structure, negotiation, or cash flow analysis please PM me!

Needless to say, the past 10 months have been very exciting for me. I am 22 years old and now own 20 units. The goal is to hit 150 units by age 30! But why not try to hit that by age 26?

I have to give a big shout out to the BP community for the advice, encouragement, and cautions as I have sought out help through this process. I really cannot imagine I would be where I am today without the BP community to lean on when things have gotten challenging.

For all the newbies, I was one just 10 months ago. Don’t think because you don’t have lots of money or experience you cant make it happen. It took me just $17k in total investment of my own money to secure these 20 units which rent for an average of $600 each (most of the utilities are sub metered too!). Figure out what peoples problems are and try to find the most advantageous way to solve those problems for all parties. It’s a relationship and problem solving game. Do that better then anyone else who is competing for a particular deal and you can surely see substantial success in a short period of time! 

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Investor · Weston, WI · Member since 2016 · 105 posts · 114 votes
10y

I  would love to see the cash flow analysis, and I bet others would to. Can you just post it here for everyone to see?

Congrats man, you are killing it!

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  • Miami, FL · Member since 2015 · 100 posts · 34 votes
    10y

    congratulations! I'm also interested to hear how the financing was structured. 

    I'd love to be able to pull off getting into a commercial apartment with such a lower initial capital investment! 

  • Ian WalshBusiness Member
    Lender · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    Really nice work.  Hard focused energy and it can be done.

  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
    10y

    @David HuynhWhat does PPU stand for? Cant say I have heard that acrynym yet. Price per unit maybe?

  • Investor · St. Paul, MN · Member since 2014 · 109 posts · 37 votes
    10y
    Joel Florek price per unit, sorry I sent that right after. What was the cost of the building?
  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
    10y

    @David HuynhShould have kept reading and I would have saw your next post on that. My 4 unit I paid $33k per unit which includes some renovations. I plan on spending another $15k in renovations over the next 3 years as tenants shuffle but that gives you a good indication.

    The 16 unit I paid $42.8k per unit. These are all 2bed 2bath or 2 bed 1bath and all sub metered utilities. All units have covered parking and a porch or deck overlooking the small lake the property sits on. The financing terms on this building both with the bank and previous owners were very favorable allowing me to pay a little more.

  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
    10y

    @Jesus GarciaThanks for the post! Its been a fun ride I am excited to keep it going!

  • Ottawa, Ontario · Member since 2016 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    10y

    Congratz Inspiring

  • Investor · Bridgeport, CT · Member since 2016 · 24 posts · 4 votes
    10y

    I don't even know you and I'm proud of you :) a very inspiring story, Ive heard of that town, "the report of iron mountain.  So did the 16 apartment bld seller finace the entire deal for you and them you went and re financed?

  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
    10y

    @Eric M.@David Huynh

    Numbers on the 16 unit.

    2015 rents: $116,000(I have budgeted at $109,000)

    2015 taxes: $17,500

    Insurance: $4,000

    Snow, trash, maintenance manager primary electric and irrigation water: $5,000

    Misc Maintenance: $6,000

    Cap X: $6,500

    Leasing Agent: $6,500(this will be a scaling structure where most of the payout comes from reaching higher occupancy. Therefore only $3,000 comes out as expense if revenue is at or under the $109k revenue)

    Total Expenses: $42k

    NOI: $67k

    Financing Expenses: $55k

    Income before taxes of $12k.

    Note that for now I am acting as the leasing agent until a portion of my debt gets refinanced in 3 years adding $6000 more to my cash flow. I will also take on some of the repair expenses that have previously been hired out to sub contractors protect my cash flow over the next 3 years.

  • Investor · Pinckney, MI · Member since 2015 · 95 posts · 24 votes
    10y

    Congratulations.  it's very encouraging and motivating to hear stories like this.  

    Like others, I would love to see the numbers to help with my education. I'm only into SFH at this point, but Multi is certainly peaking my interest lately.

    Haha, I didn't notice page 2 until after I hit Post. Thanks for sharing. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
    10y

    @Alsee MccrayMy terms are as follows

    Bank:$550k

    Am: 20yr

    Rate: 4.85%

    Balloon: 5

    Owner: $110k

    Am; 10yr

    Rate: 2%

    Balloon: 3 year

    To get here I was working with the bank who has held this property since its construction in the 90s. I then competed the loan terms and ended up staying with the bank I worked with on my first 4 unit. Really a great experience all around!

  • Investor · Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2016 · 97 posts · 90 votes
    10y

    Joel, that is incredible! Thank you for sharing with the BP community! I am currently looking for my first multifamily investment and your experience just reinforced for me that even though I am new to the world of real estate investing, there is no reason why I can't make this happen. I wish you all the best and am greatful to you for sharing!

  • Katy, TX · Member since 2016 · 49 posts · 5 votes
    10y

    Nicely done! The most helpful piece is how you drove all around town to learn about its neighborhoods. Any more advice to investors who are looking for their first MFH?

  • Gino BarbaroPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · St Augustine, FL · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    @Joel Florek

    Joel,

    you're gonna hit 150 units by 25. You see the power of owner financing and once you begin to refi the properties, you will have additional cash.  I see you raising private money or going into partnership and once you do that, you will explode.

    You have figured out the definition of an entrepreneur.  Getting paid to solve a problem.  This mindset will get you rich in real estate.

    Gino

  • Investor · Bridgeport, CT · Member since 2016 · 24 posts · 4 votes
    10y

    Thank you for providing that information Joel, I just found out bout this site 2 days ago and it is stories like yours that will encourage me to upgrade to the plus account. From this site, I learned about a real estate investment club meeting, that I attended last night, and I have gotten some really good information as a result of attending that meeting. again congratualtions to you and keep those good stories coming.

  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
    10y

    @Hubert WashingtonThanks for the kind words. For me it comes back the big "why" statement. Why am I investing in real estate? Why am I investing in this town? Why am I investing in multi family properties? Why have I chosen these particular properties? And why am I the guy that should own this particular portfolio?

    I could write pages for all these and have addressed these to stakeholders. My personal mission and vision is what keeps me focused every day. So I challenge you to ask your why questions and be sure you understand them with 100% certainty. This is what other investors, non believers, and lenders will be asking you(or variations of the questions).

    Good luck and let me know if there is ever any way I can help!

  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
    10y

    @Alsee MccrayThanks and make sure you keep up the effort. Its easy to go through life in fits and starts. But those who are consistently applying pressure end up being able to achieve success.

    By the way, if you like hockey my brother plays for the Bridgeport sound tigers. Look for FLOREK on the jersey! He is getting into SFRs in our hometown of Marquette MI.

  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
    10y

    @Gino BarbaroI appreciate the encouragement. Its funny how things have worked out through this process. 8 months ago I had a goal of hitting 20 units by age 25. Obviously I did much better on my timeline then previously anticipated.

    I have my list of properties to go find and meet the owners on so its back to the hunt!

    Development/major renovations on properties is something I am very interested in. If you have experience or know someone who might be wiling to give some tips/pointers on a phone call it would be a huge help as I try to fill up the pipeline!

  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
    10y

    @Dennis P.I posted this on a reply to another member but ill send it to you as well.

    For me it comes back the big "why" statement. Why am I investing in real estate? Why am I investing in this town? Why am I investing in multi family properties? Why have I chosen these particular properties? And why am I the guy that should own this particular portfolio?

    I could write pages for all these and have addressed these to stakeholders. My personal mission and vision is what keeps me focused every day. So I challenge you to ask your why questions and be sure you understand them with 100% certainty. This is what other investors, non believers, and lenders will be asking you(or variations of the questions). This is how you will defend, and convince them your the guy!

    Good luck and let me know if there is ever any way I can help!

  • Gino BarbaroPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · St Augustine, FL · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    @Joel Florek

    I had the same limiting belief you did. When I started investing in multis 3 years ago, I was happy if I hit one hundred units in three years.  I was fortunate to have two terrific partners and a mentality of just going for it.  I went to become a certified professional coach to work on my personal development, and it really helped.  We are about to close on a deal in 2 weeks and we are going to hit 675 units in 3 years.

    That's why I said you will blow past it.  You will hear negativity from others saying it can't be done.  And for them, they are right.  But if you believe you can do it, then I know you will.  Approach real estate as beginner and think anything is possible.  We owner financed a recent 281 unit deal, 20% owner, 80% bank. People say it can't be done.  You just need to be willing to think outside the box and work hard.

    You can PM me and I would be glad to jump on a call

    Gino

  • Atlanta, GA · Member since 2016 · 41 posts · 19 votes
    10y
    Extremely inspiring, Joel! What made you want to get involved in investing? Wishing you much success and that you continue to accomplish your goals! -Trey
  • Real Estate Agent · Spring, TX · Member since 2015 · 52 posts · 13 votes
    10y

    @Joel FlorekWow, just wow.  I hope I'm ready when my opportunity comes by.

  • Katy, TX · Member since 2016 · 49 posts · 5 votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Joel Florek:

    @Dennis P.I posted this on a reply to another member but ill send it to you as well.

    For me it comes back the big "why" statement. Why am I investing in real estate? Why am I investing in this town? Why am I investing in multi family properties? Why have I chosen these particular properties? And why am I the guy that should own this particular portfolio?

    I could write pages for all these and have addressed these to stakeholders. My personal mission and vision is what keeps me focused every day. So I challenge you to ask your why questions and be sure you understand them with 100% certainty. This is what other investors, non believers, and lenders will be asking you(or variations of the questions). This is how you will defend, and convince them your the guy!

    Good luck and let me know if there is ever any way I can help!

     Thanks!

  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
    10y

    @Trey BrooksWhen people ask me that question I like to simply reply by saying that I just want to get back on the water sailing.

    Really, what it comes down to is I want a life that I get to choose my rules. If I want to go sailboat racing for a week, cruise the Caribbean for a few months, or do an Atlantic crossing I want that freedom. I actually want to leave on a circumnavigation before I am 30.

    But beyond that I want to know that I can provide for my extended family, give back to the schools which have helped me to be who I am, and help influence positive change in the communities I care about.

    Needless to say I need a lot of money and cant be tied to a job the rest of my life(for now my job is helping me to get off the ground and I actually do enjoy what I do). To achieve everything I need to own assets.

    Since I don't have a trust fund I need to own all or part of a business. Real estate is something I know from helping my parents flip houses as a kid. But to achieve the bigger goals I have I looked to the people who are already doing that. They all own as a part of their asset portfolio in big multi family or commercial real estate. So rather then try to invent some new product I am sticking to my roots for now and trying to build a multi family and commercial real estate portfolio.

  • Real Estate Agent · Denver, CO · Member since 2015 · 8 posts · 4 votes
    10y

    Nicely done Joel. It is always inspiring to see other young people succeed in investing and not let the "too young" excuse slow you down!

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