Anyone used 401k to purchase first property ?

Anyone used 401k to purchase first property ?

Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 43 posts · 26 votes

Hello people of bp, i am in the sf bay area and in the process of purchasing my first home. Through the pre approval i come to find out i am about 30k short in available funds in my account , and cant deposit the difference in cash immediately (within one year) . But i do have 30 k in my 401k and am learning i can borrow against it as long as i pay it back. My question is anyone have any good or bad experience with this route? Any thoughts, opinions or concerns would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!!

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Rental Property Investor · Colorado Springs, CO · Member since 2020 · 433 posts · 284 votes
5y

Michael,

I have used this strategy several times. You pay yourself back, plus interest, which is a win win in my book.

This allows you to earn a better return, and gets you in the game!

Best of luck on your adventure,

Cheers!

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  • Real Estate Agent · New York City · Member since 2020 · 818 posts · 639 votes
    5y

    A loan is different. If its a good deal and you want to do it, then do what you need to do!

    I'm just giving you the ideal scenario! 

  • New York City, NY · Member since 2017 · 43 posts · 174 votes
    5y

    @Michael Loza

    We did use a SDIRA to invest in a property using non-recourse financing which required 50% down & had a $70k loan min meaning we had to invest $70k to buy a $140k home as a minimum.  Because of this we actually cashed out my husbands 401(k) since he had less than $70k in it to use conventional financing with 20% down to get better leverage & buy more homes.  This was a good option for us based on our scenario & we didn't have to pay any fees due to the cares act with our situation.  

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 43 posts · 26 votes
    5y

    @Hernando Quintero thanks hernando

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 43 posts · 26 votes
    5y

    @Alexander Szikla thanks alex, i figure with the interest rate id be paying myself back with the loan and appreciation of the asset i dont think the difference would be significant in the long run as long as i pay back the loan in time . Thanks for your persective !

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 43 posts · 26 votes
    5y

    @Onan Dumas thanks onan i figure the compounded interest wouldnt be very significant if i pay back the loan quickly. Plus the appreciation of the asset at an average of 3% it might be worth it to do it. Thanks for the point you brought up i appreciate it! No pun intended!

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 43 posts · 26 votes
    5y

    @Brooke Andrea wow that’s interesting, im gonna have to look into that as well. Thanks brooke

  • Plymouth Meeting, PA · Member since 2019 · 34 posts · 12 votes
    5y

    @Michael Loza taking a loan from from your 401k is a very viable option. You'll want to check with your plan admin regarding fees, but typically they are rather minimal. Plus there's no tax implications as long as it's a loan and not a withdrawal. It will most likely be deducted from your paycheck, so just make sure your comfortable with what your new paycheck looks like calculating in the loan payback. One other piece to note is per my mortgage broker taking a loan from your 401k does not negatively affect your DTI as it would if you were tapping into a heloc, for example. Good luck!

  • Rental Property Investor · Amityville, NY · Member since 2018 · 351 posts · 441 votes
    5y

    Ive taken a "loan" from my annuity multiple times. they allow up to 50% of account value. just make he payments and earn some interest.

    Just make sure you have a solid exit plan and recheck your numbers and ARV.

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 43 posts · 26 votes
    5y

    @Erik B. Thanks erik

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 43 posts · 26 votes
    5y

    @David Lorenz right on , i did not consider them taking it out right out my check. I will make sure to ask about that.

  • Realtor · Oakland, CA and a Real Estate Investor with Multi-Family Units and a Self Storage Facility · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    @Michael Loza

    Depends on if your employer will let you. There are plenty of ways to do this, but if your 401K plan won't let you then that is it.

  • Realtor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2017 · 16 posts · 12 votes
    5y

    @Michael Loza I have done it twice. It’s a great method to acquire a first property (and others for that matter). You pay yourself back interest which comes directly out of direct deposit (tax deductions!). But it’s really straight forward and a great way to break into home ownership, and snowball into investing.

    Let me know if I can provide any more info.

    -Hansel

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 43 posts · 26 votes
    5y

    @Hansel Akers. Thanks hansel, it seems to be a great way to get my first home. I am certain at this point i will be doing it, regarding everyones input

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 43 posts · 26 votes
    5y

    @Brian Garlington yea well i plan on pulling it from an account that was started by my previous employer (which matched 6%) but i am no longer with them nor contributing to the account, since i have 2 others with my current. I see youre in oakland! Thanks for the help!

  • Noblesville, IN · Member since 2015 · 21 posts · 4 votes
    5y

    @Michael Loza

    Check and see if you qualify to transfer your current 401k into a self-direct 401k.

    You only can take out loan of 50% of the current amount, but not more that $50,000.

    It is very fast and easy..... as writing check to yourself. :-)

    Elena

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 43 posts · 26 votes
    5y

    @Elena Dubinski thanks elena im gonna call tomorrow and see, i appreciate it!

  • Developer · Bellefontaine Ohio · Member since 2016 · 371 posts · 219 votes
    5y

    Watch out a job layoff means entire balance must be repaid, or you get taxed and penalties.

    There is also 3 yr split and pay because of covid19, which i think could be repaid back to your plan and recoup taxes in year 3.

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2016 · 251 posts · 224 votes
    5y

    As others have said, this is a great strategy! Not my first property, but I am doing this for a BRRRR property I just bought.

  • Rental Property Investor · NJ CT, Long Distance · Member since 2021 · 37 posts · 20 votes
    5y

    @Michael Loza

    As most have mentioned this is a great strategy, I've done it multiple times myself. One thing to be mindful of is that your lender may be looking at your income to loan, and by taking out a 401k loan they may need to re run their calculations.

    Also, and it sounds like this is similar to the cash problem you have where they won't let you use additional funds, the mortgage company wants to know where the money is coming from. So in the future its best to take the 401k loan out two months in advance so it sits in your savings account and looks like cash, not a loan. Just FYI.

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 43 posts · 26 votes
    5y

    @Steven Westlake interesting, thats good to know. Thanks steve

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 43 posts · 26 votes
    5y

    @Ryan A Rodriguez-Wiggins yea for sure , thanks for the tip!

  • Multifamily Syndicator · Houston, TX · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    If you are able to pay yourself back while you have a property in your portfolio, I see no reason why you shouldn't do it. 

    Go for it. I feel like we forget sometimes that the 401k is our money after all. 

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 43 posts · 26 votes
    5y

    @Ola Dantis for sure thanks for the support ola!

  • Property Manager · Saint Petersburg, FL · Member since 2016 · 182 posts · 51 votes
    5y

    friend had a terrible experience when she borrowed from 401K and then the business sold. She was required to pay the entire sum immediately and could not so was charged the early withdrawl penatly.  It was a "big" business ... no one saw that train coming. Too bad for her; just a word of caution to any who consider this plan.

  • Rental Property Investor · NJ CT, Long Distance · Member since 2021 · 37 posts · 20 votes
    5y

    @Michael Loza

    Np!

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