Negotiating Down The Price on a Potential BRRR

Negotiating Down The Price on a Potential BRRR

Kunaal KumarPro Member
Investor · Seattle, WA · Member since 2018 · 8 posts · 3 votes

I’m considering a fixer upper property in North Dallas. The property has been on the market for more than a year, and the property is currently listed at around 250k. Im relatively new, and would greatly appreciate some tips to negotiate it down to fit my numbers.

It was initially listed at 320k, and over the course of the year, the price has been steadily dropped. In between, a buyer submitted an offer but pulled out, most likely due to the property inspection.

According to my estimates, the ARV will be around 300k, and will require 30-40k of rehab. I'm using the BRRR method, so I want to be at the most all in for 80% of the ARV, which means I would need to convince the seller to 200k to be conservative. The property is already at a slight discount because of its condition. However, the current discount doesn't have enough margin to make the deal profitable, so I need to negotiate it down further.

The seller seems to be very miserly; he refuses to pay the buyers agent commission of 3% , and has instead decided that he’s only willing to pay $300 to the buyers agent at the most.

Given that the seller seems to be particularly cheap, what are some methods I can use to negotiate the price down? My initial thoughts were to leverage the fact that it’s been sitting on the market for so long, and maybe offering more earnest money. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

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  • Rental Property Investor · Ocala, FL · Member since 2017 · 138 posts · 100 votes
    6y

    @Kunaal Kumar in any deal, you have to know your top number (offer), based on your minimum ROI. Is $200K the max you can afford to make the deal work? If so, you go in with $200K and be willing to walk away if the seller rejects it. It's that simple; don't make it emotional and ALWAYS be willing to walk away if the numbers don't work.

    The seller may not be cheap, maybe they just can't afford to go any lower considering they've already dropped from $320 to $250.  The worst thing that can happen is that your offer is rejected but you should never offer more than the financial viability will allow.

    Good luck!

  • Jonathan GreeneBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Madison, NJ · Member since 2016 · 6k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    6y

    Walk away and don't waste time on deals like this. If it's been on a year, even at a higher price, and the seller won't pay the buyer side, which a brokerage should never allow on a listing (not even sure they can do that), why hasn't an experienced investor nabbed it? Because it's not a good deal and not a good property and the seller is difficult. What you are doing is trying to find filet mignon in table scraps and then hoping that what you think is filet really is, but it's not even steak, it's a mushroom.

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