Can someone be successful, if they're Ugly, because of dental issues?

Can someone be successful, if they're Ugly, because of dental issues?

Grounds Maintenance · Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2009 · 143 posts · 11 votes

Can someone be successful, if they're Ugly, because of dental issues?

My question: Can someone be successful, if they're Ugly, because of dental issues? :(

There are only Two Ways, I can think of to do this. See the Two Below.

1. Be a bird dog, and settle for 1K to 2K per deal.

2. Try to get a Real Estate broker to submit my offers, along with my Good Faith deposits to the seller and then me going to the Investor's to close on it with my profit built into the offer, along with all repairs and holding costs factored in, and I know this is going to be difficult, because I have no track record with any brokerage firm in my area, except a R.E. Club broker, but he will not do them for me, and perhaps may close on them himself, and especially, if I have no signed contract with the seller, or don't do anything fast with the lead.

NOTE: Using a Transactional Funder to fund the sale, and closing costs are how I would plan to fund the first closing between myself, the broker, and the seller with me providing the good faith deposit. I would then go ahead and close the same day (Double Closing) with an already accepted offer from One, to hopefully, four, or five Investor's offers for that same property.

NOTE: Exit strategy would be contingent upon the 3rd parties, satisfactory approval of an inspection of the property, should this be allowed with this seller.

My Concerns: Should I trust the broker, or ask for how the details of each separate transaction will be handled, and require the details be on a contract between me and the agency.

NOTE: I cannot see me getting the broker's attention, and I think most broker's will walk, w/o me having experience or closed deals under my belt.

My skills at finding properties are pretty strong, at least I think. I can find homes, but I wonder if the R.E. Agency will just bring my leads to an experienced Investor, thereby, undermining my efforts.

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Chris K.Pro Member
Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2012 · 1k+ posts · 655 votes
12y

You think being ugly stops people from success in Real Estate??

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  • Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 31k+ posts · 20k+ votes
    12y

    ?

  • Real Estate Agent · Port Orange, FL · Member since 2014 · 26 posts · 6 votes
    12y

    Im taking this as a joke?

  • Investor · Southeast, MI · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    12y

    I don't see why being ugly or having dental issues would effect success. Have you ever seen the show Shark Tank? Barbara Corcoran is ugly, has dental issues, and she's LOADED.

  • Jean BolgerPro Member
    Aurora, CO · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    12y

    While there have been studies that show that conventionally attractive people are more likely to be trusted, and therefore successful, there are many, many other factors at play. And as Rob has pointed out, there are plenty of less attractive people who become successful (Donald Trump, anyone?)

    I am more concerned about the fact that you've written a fairly long post that I, at least, am having trouble understanding. Clear communication skills are far more important than looks in the long run.

  • Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    12y

    You focus too much on your dental issues.

    Make offers on the phone and fax and have your attorney do the rest. You can close deals without your face or your dental issues being....issues. :-)

  • Chris K.Pro Member
    Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2012 · 1k+ posts · 655 votes
    12y

    You think being ugly stops people from success in Real Estate??

  • Karen MargraveBusiness Member
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    Realtor, General Contractor, and Developer · Redding, CA · Member since 2009 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y

    @Ronald H. Obviously what you look like has nothing at all to do with making offers. Why would the seller of a property care what a buyer looked like?

    The real question would be, if this is a serious post, why wouldn't you take some of your money to deal with your dental issues if they cause you so much distress? It seems to me that what you'd need. is to take care of that, and then possibly get some counseling so that your self worth isn't tied to your looks, etc. There's always going to be someone more handsome or prettier, younger, thinner, etc. That's life. Learn to appreciate what you do bring to the table, not your short comings! :)

  • South Bend, IN · Member since 2014 · 318 posts · 156 votes
    12y

    Not to sound harsh but dude, it's all in your head. The way you perceive yourself in your head is how eventually other people see you because the image in your head about yourself dictates how you present yourself. If you think you are ugly and you cannot close a deal, guess what, the person on the other side of the transaction will pick up on something and it will not be positive.....your hesitation, your lack of confidence, your slant towards second guessing yourself because those are the signals you are giving out. That will translate into them not wanting to do business with you. You can be as ugly as they come but if you have a positive attitude and confidence people will gravitate towards that spark of character and be willing to do business with you. Easier said than done I know but start with those negative thoughts about yourself in your head. Kick them out by replacing them with good thoughts about yourself and how you want to see yourself and how you want others to see you. It will take some work but it is better than living in your self imposed prison...that is in your head.

  • Jerry W.Pro Member
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    Investor · Thermopolis, WY · Member since 2012 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y

    @Ronald H. in case you have not been beat up enough I will add my 2 cents. When it comes to business looks don't matter much. I have one really good friend is really ugly, teeth problems, a bad skin condition, his hair is even worse than mine, and he actually dresses so bad you want to scrape stuff off of them. that being said this guy is a straight up guy who works hard and is a dam good mechanic. He doesn't wring his hands and say i cannot get a job or do business because I am ugly. He makes a decent living and I would do business with him in a heartbeat. If you focus on what you cannot do, that is what you will do. Nothing. Get over it and go out there and do something, this isn't high school.

  • Anthony GaydenPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Omaha, NE · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    12y

    The thing is that money is the only thing that matters in this game. Period. We all want to make money, and anyone who would not work with you solely based on your appearance has the mindset of a loser, and will never be successful.

    On another note, your attitude is very negative and defeatist. You seem to be giving up before you have even gotten started. To be successful in whatever you want to do in life, you need to be optimistic.

  • Queens, NY · Member since 2013 · 82 posts · 10 votes
    12y

    Can not believe I just read that. How did I... What in the...

    Some people should not be allowed to use the internet. Please don't procreate.

  • Real Estate Investor · Desoto, TX · Member since 2013 · 560 posts · 528 votes
    12y

    Assuming the question is serious based on the long post, I am going to say you should stop right where you are. You should not be thinking about being successful in any business; you should be thinking about getting some help with your self confidence. Looks do not determine your real estate investing success. Maybe if you were trying to be a model I would say "hell yeah looks matter".

    If the subject of your post was to grab attention, again I would say stop right where you are. Your post did grab my attention and I must say you are coming off as a little weird. Most people respond favorable to those who are self confident, no matter what they look like. Not trying to bash you, I'm just saying......

  • Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 31k+ posts · 20k+ votes
    12y
    Originally posted by @Rob K.:
    I don't see why being ugly or having dental issues would effect success. Have you ever seen the show Shark Tank? Barbara Corcoran is ugly, has dental issues, and she's LOADED.

    She's no Lori but I mean for her age she's not looking to bad.........just sayin

  • Mechanicsburg, PA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    12y

    @Ronald H.

    This isn't Miss America, this is real estate, its what's between the ears not what's in front of the ears.

  • Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 451 posts · 96 votes
    12y

    WT guess the last letter...

  • Contractor · Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2010 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    12y

    What............?

  • SFR Investor · Stillwater, OK · Member since 2014 · 168 posts · 37 votes
    12y

    As long as you don't have tusks five times as large as a wild boar (a smell to match)and red glowing eyes how you look shouldn't matter

    I've been told the hill billy folks on the old movie "deliverance" look and act less inbred than I do ! :)

    And I frighten some people(they think I look crazy) and babies cry(deep rough voice) (possibly looks). :)

    No one has mentioned my extra fingers or gigantic fist sized warts on my five gallon bucket sized head when we make a deal and I am handing them a sack of Gold

    So I sneak around and make a few deals ,then go back to my cave way back in the woods.

    I only go into town about once a month for supplys and collect the rents

  • Flipper · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2009 · 973 posts · 679 votes
    12y

    To answer your actual questions: If you could do number one, I don't see any reason why you can't do number 2. Birdogging requires finding the properties and turning them over to an investor. It sounds like you want to do the same thing in number 2, but you would take title first.

    I would be concerned about getting seller's to accept your third-party approval contingency, but I suppose it depends on how the market looks in your area. Most sellers here wouldn't mess with that. What steps could you take to avoid that contingency?

    Finding a broker to work with should be easy if you can speak to them in a way that shows them you understand what you're doing and that you intend to close deals. You will lose them quickly, however, if you start backing out of contracts.

    If you do use a broker to submit offers, and you sign a buyers-agent agreement, then they have a fiduciary duty to you. If they go around you, and take a deal you want to offer on to another investor, you'd have solid grounds for a lawsuit.

  • Real Estate Investor · Lansdowne, PA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 656 votes
    12y

    @Chris K. rotfl at the donald ~ you know its hysterical yet sad because he might really look like that. :-)

    @Ronald Holloway

    The title of the post is waaaaay odd to state the least. You most certainly have to gain confidence, a little boost in self-esteem would help.... The power of will is all on you as its been granted by God.

    "Whether you think you can or if you think you can't, you're right." Henry Ford.

    Kudos,

    Mary

  • Denver, CO · Member since 2013 · 185 posts · 160 votes
    12y

    Wow! That was a good read lol... Great forum post

  • Developer · Garland, TX · Member since 2008 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y

    In my last 10 real estate buy/sells, I've only met the buyer or seller twice, and that was after we had a deal. My appearance was irrelevant.

  • Investor, Entrepreneur, Educator · Springfield, MO · Member since 2009 · 21k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    12y

    Ugly is supposed to only be skin deep, when it goes deeper into your attitude in life, you have a real problem. :)

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Chandler, AZ · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 928 votes
    12y

    I was involved in about 100 real estate transaction last year and in almost all cases, I never left my office. My old business partner runs his entire flipping operation from another country.

    You can be successful in RE no matter what. If there is a will, there is way. Good luck!

  • Developer · Garland, TX · Member since 2008 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y
    Originally posted by @Justin S.:
    I was involved in about 100 real estate transaction last year and in almost all cases, I never left my office. My old business partner runs his entire flipping operation from another country.

    You can be successful in RE no matter what. If there is a will, there is way. Good luck!

    I believe I know your old business partner, Justin. I've had several conversations and explored JVs with him, but have never met him, nor even seen his picture.

  • Grounds Maintenance · Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2009 · 143 posts · 11 votes
    12y

    If your friend is running his flipping business from out of the country, I would like to know who inspects the out of country real estate for him. I would like to do a flip on homes in my state and out-of-my-state, where the economic and job prospects are good. This could allow one to run their business from home, pretty much. The trust level would have to be extremely high. I know, I would love to know what his exit strategies are on the normal contracts. Is he, as the wholesaler having his contract with the seller, contingent upon 3rd party Investor financing approval, or the usual Acceptable Inspection Clause? What other exit strategies does he use, since we all know that having only One Exit Strategy presents more risk than having a few. Does your friend use a Virtual Assistant to take pictures of the subject property? This would make a "Great Topic" here.

    Some research or professional legal advice initially would be smart regarding contingencies and subject to's, considering that every state has different laws and trends. Lots of marketing for the cash buyers would be diligent as well.

    This would be a great thing if one could understand it within a reasonable time span. Use listsource to find cash buyers, use click2mail to market to them, and use an automated calling system to screen potential prospects.

    Thanks Jon, for your initial email here. I would love to be able to do flips without seeing having to see the property. If you got the time, it would be excellent if you would share some of your friends strategies with all of us.

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