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Debbie B.


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Hi, everyone! I stumbled across this site while researching REI and it's great!

My name is Debbie Butler and I live in Hurst, Texas. I'm a business/systems analyst and manager for a large investment bank. I work in the capital markets group. We support the trade desk that buys and sells loan portfolios in the secondary market. With the current market, most of our loans are scratch and dent and are either in foreclosure or REO. Seeing all these distressed loans every day got me to thinking there's got to be a way to make some money off this.

My husband and I bought a new home (new to us) a year ago and rented out our old house because of the depressed market. We lived in our old house for 18 years and have good equity. The rentors are pretty good and have never missed a payment. They actualy want to buy the house but have poor credit. We've considered a lease option but don't know how to go about it. We don't make much off the rent (about $83/month) and would be making a lot more if it weren't for the 2nd lien.

I'm hoping we can find a few fixer uppers. My husband is self-employed and he's coming up on a slow time. He is very handy, so our thought is we could buy fixer uppers and he can do the rehab then we'll rent. We have excellent credit, but he is self-employed, which might make the financing difficult.

Thanks for all the great information I've read so far on this site. I have a much better idea what I'm up against to enter the REI world. I'm currently reading several books on investing in foreclosures and rehabs. After reading several posts here, my wish list on Amazon keeps getting bigger!

Debbie

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Dan O.

Real Estate Investor
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Hi Debbie,

Welcome! You definitely have the financial saavy to make deals happen.

Remember, don't spend too much time learning 101 ways to buy real estate...simply get dialed in on a couple of strategies and begin applying them! You and your husband are probably further along in the game than you might think.

I'd love to chat with you more about your current occupation.

Debbie B.


Hurst, TX
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Dan, I'd be happy to talk to you about my occupation, but it's pretty boring and not much going on right now. The MBS (morgage backed securities) market is all but dead. Until we start structuring some new deals, business is pretty slow.

Mark R.

Residential Real Estate Agent
Plano, TX
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Hi Debbie, I'm pretty new on here too, and so far seems to be a great resource to lean a lot about how people are having success. I'm over in the Plano/Allen/Mckinney area. I'm not so famliar with Hurst, but I'd bet there are some good deals to be had over there too. I just met someone who probably has a similar position to yours, he is at JPM. Apparently there is an auction coming up where they dispose of a lot of these properties in the next month. I've forgotten the details but I can get them. Anyways, I look forward to chatting or let me know if I can help you out in anyway.

Tom T.

Real Estate Investor
San Antonio, Texas
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wecome Deb! IMO you are in the best state possible right now for flipping. Have fun, be careful and good luck with your venture!

Jason H.

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Oakton, VA
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Debbie,

Welcome to the site. To find more information about lease options you can check out the lease option section. It is under the creative real estate financing header toward the bottom of all of the forums......good luck.

Dick G.

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Hi Debbie,

Welcome to the site. Hurst.....isn't that near Dallas? Tarrant County......how's the foreclosure rate in the area? Eighteen years of equity.....that's like money in the bank. Actually, it's better than money in the bank.

Mike S.

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Minneapolis, MN
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Hey Debbie, Weklcome to BiggerPockets!
One thing you might consider is, as you said, selling on a lease option. You would be selling more as a " retail" lease purchase. Ask your renters if they would be interested in structuring a leae purchase where they give you an additional option fee (as much as you can get) and then set them up on a two year term. They pay you about $200 more than what their current rent is, and you would apply that amount toward the final purchase price if they end up exercising their option and buying it. You can get them in touch with a good creative mortgage broker, and start fixing their credit and gearing up for them getting their loan. If for some reason they don't end up exercising, you can start the process over with another couple. You can also do a search in this site for lease purchase deals and there is a creative financing forum that is very interesting and helpful. Good luck! Mike

Debbie B.


Hurst, TX
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Yes, Hurst is in Tarrant County. I don't know the exact foreclosure rate in this area, but I think it's lower than the national average.

From what I have read on the internet, the Texas Legislature has made it virtually impossible to do lease options. I'm sure there's a loophole somewhere, but I haven't found it yet. My head is swimming from the plethora of information.

I'm not sure I want to sell my rent house now anyway. We may need to leverage the equity for more investments.

nationwidepi

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Santa Clarita, California
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Welcome to BP Debbie! Great to have you here. My favorite area in the country to invest is in the Metroplex. I have many properties there and will actually be there next week working on deals.

You are correct about lease options in Texas. Realtors/agents/yourself can not leagally do them in that state. The only way they can be done is to have an attorney draw them up. There are a few ways around it, but which ever way you choose, I highly recommend an attorney on your team who is highly experienced in the RE field.

One option is to sell via a wrap mortgage which would be leaving your current mortgage in place, and selling to the buyer at an interest rate higher than that of your current and thus keeping the " spread" You also put the responsibility of taxes and insurance as well as repairs and maintenance on the new buyer rather than yourself which will increase your cash flow. You also avoid property management fees (if you are using them, and if not, you no longer have to self-manage). You will hear about the banks " due on sale clause" which states that if you transfer title to another partie, they have the right to call the full loan due and payable. While this is true, it very, very rarely happens. Particularly now as banks don't care who pays the mortgage, as long as they get it. You may also avoid this clause by implementing a land trust. Search for a thread here on BP on land trusts or go to my website and click on the land trust link. It will take you directly to a BP member who is an expert on the subject.

Good luck and feel free to ask any additional questions here on BP or to me directly. We are here to help.

Debbie B.


Hurst, TX
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Everyone here is so nice and helpful! I'll look into a wrap mortgage. Thanks!