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Heather F.


Burlington, VT
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I am a new landlady, and don't want to be so for the long term.
For now, the tenants are paying my mortgage. I wanted to hold for at least a year before selling (in case I couldn't find an adequate 1031) to avoid capital gains gouges.

What is the best strategy for selling with tenants living in the house?
I've heard I should have the house vacant and do proper staging.
I don't have the money to pay for carrying costs if it doesn't sell right away.

Any recommendations?

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Colin T.


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If possible price the property lower than local comps. If property is cashflowing you shouldnt have much trouble selling. Perhaps you could provide us with more info.

Frank A.


Loveland, CO
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I'm not sure I understand some parts of your post:

I am a new landlady, and don't want to be so for the long term

How (and I guess why) did you become a new landlady?

If the property was (until now) your residence there would be no tax on the gain, if 2 of the last 5 years.

If you just bought the place as an investment, how much gain would you even have?

If you just bought it to flip, it wouldn't be eligible for 1031 treatment.

1031 does not eliminate taxes, just pospones them.

avoid capital gains gouges.

Where do people come up with this funny idea that capital gains taxes are " gouges" ? Ideally, it gets preferential treatment (LT), and at worst it is taxed at the same rate as your ordinary income!

As hcf said, give us some more info.

" If" , it's a good rental, it's easy to sell with tenants. If it's not a good rental a " real" investor will not be interested in it as a rental. If you just want to keep some cash coming in while it's on the market, offer the tenant a reduction in rent to keep it in " showing" (exemplary) condition. And a bonus to move when it sells.

all cash

Heather F.


Burlington, VT
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Ah yes, I have been a landlady for 2 months now
I intended to do a lease option, but my numbers didn't work well enough to draw potential tenant buyers to the property. So I thought I would rent it out for a year, which would buy me time to investigate the possibility of building on the land (which I described in another post) and then selling at the end of my tenants' lease.

This is an SFR that I was thinking of selling to a family who plans to live in it.
I have never lived in the property and bought it because it was in a pretty good location, and I had about 50K+ equity from the get go.

I didn't realize flips were not allowed to be used for 1031's.
How long must you own a house before you can use the gains for 1031?

One idea I have is to continue exchanging property until I get a cash flow situation that works very well (the current one does not) or until I can trade into a house that I would want to move into...live there a couple years, then take advantage of the 250 tax free gain.

I think I answered many of the questions listed above.
Any additional thoughts/ideas/suggestions/clarifications are welcome.

And by the way...this forum is VERY helpful.
Thanks to those of you who are experienced and willing to show us newbies the ropes!

Heather

Frank A.


Loveland, CO
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It's going to be " cold water shower" time.

You wrote;

but my numbers didn't work well enough to draw potential tenant buyers to the property

and;

I had about 50K+ equity from the get go

Since " tenant buyers" tend to be the " weakest" buyers they are the ones most likely to buy at a price that you can tap into your " equity" . By which I take it you mean profit potential.

If you can't sell it at a $50K profit, then you don't have a $50K profit. And you're currently losing money on a monthly basis.

Oh, and you can't 1031 into a house to use as a primary residence. You have to;

1. Do a " like kind" exchange, sell a rental and purchase a property that you (will want to live in later) rent for a couple of years

2. Then convert it to your primary residence.

3. Then live in for two years, and have a total of five years ownership before it qualifies for the section 121 (2 of 5 years) tax free treatment of the $250K/$500K gain.

In many situations it can just be easier to sell and pay the taxes.

all cash

Bill E.

Real Estate Investor
San Diego, California
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Here is an artilce that I wrote on holding guidelines http://www.exeterco.com/holding_guidelines_for_1031_exchange_property.aspx that will provide you with more detailed information.

Heather F.


Burlington, VT
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thanks for your input.

Yes, I was thinking of doing a like kind exchange, not moving into it right away, but eventually. That's a great reminder though...

I tried to view the article listed, but the url came back as unable to display.
Please let me know when the article is up and running, or if you're able to cut and paste into the post, that would be most informative.

Thank you!

Jon H.

Real Estate Investor
Denver, Colorado
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There's a trailing period on William's URL. Just delete it off and the link works OK. William, you might want to edit your post and drop out that trailing period.

Jon

Bill E.

Real Estate Investor
San Diego, California
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Thanks for the heads up. I just hate those darn trailing periods! Anyway, I fixed it.

Heather F.


Burlington, VT
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great article.
thanks so much Grin

Bill E.

Real Estate Investor
San Diego, California
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You are very welcome.