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Ingrid N.

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Passaic, New Jersey
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I'm waiting on an answer on an REO offer for 6 days now. Supposedly I'll know tomorrow. I'm just wondering if these banks are all just waiting to see what Congress is planning or if things are business as usual on existing inventory? Seems like everything has just stopped dead - even the realtors aren't calling this past week.

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Krzysztof D.

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no, i think it's ' business as usual '.......... and realtors not calling ?oh, i think they're busy watching tv

OneTimeBuyer


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Good luck tomorrow. I've made 3 offers to Wells Fargo and the first 2 times (this Spring) it took 5 days and my most recent offer just last week, I heard within 24 hours. They're still in no mood to negotiate.

Ingrid N.

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Passaic, New Jersey
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I'm at day #9 right now and suddenly there's another offer in the mix. I got a call 3 days ago requesting "highest and best". Well I'm at that $10K below asking all cash. Wonder what will happen.

Krzysztof D.

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kent, Ohio
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on REO i bought my bid was 4% over asking ( all cash) - property was listed for three days and there were 17 ( seventeen offers)........ but it was one year ago
ps I live in this house :)

Ingrid N.

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I guess I will just have to wait and see. If it was my personal residence or a "gotta have it" house I would definitely do just as you have done. For me its just an investment.

Krzysztof D.

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kent, Ohio
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ingrid , just screw them banks and pay cash for that goddamn REO......yeah right ;)

p.s. now, seriously - your name point at Hungarian roots , so we are like cousins ( you know, that proverb ..." lengyel-magyar.......")

Ingrid N.

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Passaic, New Jersey
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I am paying cash.

Krzysztof D.

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kent, Ohio
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if you are paying cash ( just like me one year ago) - then why worry ? you are in a privileged position right now

ps Ingrid I will tell you one more thing : the best investment right now is to be DEBT FREE ( if you know what i mean )

Stephani

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Tampa, Florida
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Hi Ingrid,

I don't think it has so much to do with them waiting to hear the latest bailout news as it does with them just being way, way behind.

It is a mess.

Some of the REO deals I am doing right now are taking as long to close as a short sale would. I am frustrated beyond belief.

Steph

Ingrid N.

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Passaic, New Jersey
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Thanks Stefani. I sort of figured that.

Krzy, I'm with you on paying cash if you can. In my instance I want to buy this one for retirement later and don't want to deal with the mortgage hassle. That however is the only reason. My dad, just like you, always said if you can't pay cash don't buy it. A majority of the people today can't do that. (PS - Czech by birth; Hungarian by marriage and divorced by choice) :)

Although I respect both your opinion and that of my dad, I do disagree to an extent. My primary residence is not paid for. I have 54 apts of which only 10 are fully paid for. The rest are financed. If I invest in r.e. the way my dad did, he saved up and bought 2 houses in his lifetime, fully paid for of course. Would I have had the same ability to acquire that paying cash for each individual one based upon my full-time salary and living frugally. This is how I present it to my dad when we argue :)

Ingrid N.

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Passaic, New Jersey
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Here's an update: offer placed 9/21. Today 10/6 still no answer. Reason: "PERSON in charge of reviewing ALL OFFERS for the REO had a family emergency".

Jean B.

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Fort Pierce, Florida
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Going to make my first offer to Well Fargo on a place I would like to live in. They have it listed almost double of what is owed, 56% more to be exact. I was going to offer cash, about $10K over what is owed. Thoughts? I guess I am dreaming..LOL. It took them almost 2 months to even get a price on the darn thing. Anyone have success with lower then asking prices with Wells? Thanks for letting me vent.

Ingrid N.

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Passaic, New Jersey
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Jean, I'm not quite sure what you're asking. The asking price vs. what is owed or the amount due at foreclosure is sort of irrelevant if this home is an REO. You need to concentrate on what you believe is the current value of the home. The home I recently bid on was foreclosed on with the homeowner stiffing the bank for $91K. The home went up for sale at $115K. My offer was beat by another purchaser. In this situation the bank made out on the foreclosure-they have covered their unpaid mortgage and legal costs with excess; however this is not the norm these days.

Ingrid N.

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Passaic, New Jersey
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another thing I forgot to mention is that my offer to was all cash. I think today the banks just want the best price and don't care whether its financed or paid outright.

abhyler

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Lincoln, Nebraska
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Last year we put an offer on a floreclosed property that has been in the market for 1 week. we knew it got a lot of attention so we offered pretty close to asking, several days went by and no response from the Bank, we were told the person making the decition had a personal issue....well.... I guess that was just an excuse, because the day after, they took another offer. Anyways, we were happy they did not accept our offer cause this property was in an area that lost a lot of value. We consider our selves blessed by God.

Greg S.

Residential Real Estate Broker
Highlands Ranch, CO
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The asset managers are overworked and underbrained, these things take both patience and persistence! Hang in there and ask every day!

Aaron N.

Real Estate Coach
Riverside, California
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Lenders are catching up with the new rules put forth. They're trying to get in touch with all the people fasing foreclosure. Check out HR3221

Our local court house steps caller says he expects it to pick up again after Christmas. Same goes for many of our REO friends.

OneTimeBuyer


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Originally posted by Jean B
Going to make my first offer to Well Fargo on a place I would like to live in. They have it listed almost double of what is owed, 56% more to be exact. I was going to offer cash, about $10K over what is owed. Thoughts? I guess I am dreaming..LOL. It took them almost 2 months to even get a price on the darn thing. Anyone have success with lower then asking prices with Wells? Thanks for letting me vent.

Jean,
I've been trying to purchase a home from Wells Fargo/PAS since April. It took forever for them to put a price on this house too. They started asking what was owed -- $840K Which was a joke since there are 32 houses for sale in this neighborhood where home values have tanked. They are now down to $689K. We're $40K away from their price and they still aren't taking it! They countered $3,000 below their ask. What a joke! I've moved on. They can sit on the house for another year. BTW, I'm the only buyer they've had on the house since they listed it. I'm now pursuing a home in the same neighborhood owned by UB&T. I put an offer in on Thursday and waiting for a response. With my offer, I have included a long letter cluing them in on what's happening here, photos of the condition of the house as well as the current CMAs. Maybe they will see the light.

Jean B.

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Fort Pierce, Florida
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Thanks for all the info. I guess it just takes patience, something I need to practice. LOL.