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Matt B.

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Fairview, OH
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Does anyone on here use an agent?

Thanks for the advice!

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Dan O.

Real Estate Investor
CO
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Sure...on a regular basis.

Do you have a specific reason for asking?

Matt B.

Real Estate Investor
Fairview, OH
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Well im just asking becuase Im not a full time investor yet.

And ive been refered to an agent that deals mainly with REO's and shortsales. From what I see and read on this site is most of the investors find the deals on there own.

Wondering what characteristics make up a good REO agent?

Thanks!

Dan O.

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Hey Matt,

Off the top of my head, my opinion of a good agent includes (in no particular order):

1. Understands what my buying/selling criteria is and isn't offended by it.

2. Really knows the market I'm interested in.

3. Keeps open communication and contacts me immediately whenever pertinent news is available regarding target deals.

4. Willing to quickly pull comps for me whenever requested knowing that his/her payday will follow on a regular basis.

5. Isn't paranoid that I'll try to cut him/her out of a commission. Hint: NEVER try to save a buck by risking a reputation.

6. Follows through as promised or agreed upon.

7. Contacts me before anyone else.

Matt B.

Real Estate Investor
Fairview, OH
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Thanks dan!

Ya I had a realtor on my last deal and she was embaressed to put in my offers and eventually just stopped returning my calls.

David P.

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Big_Bo,

I'm an agent that works almost exclusively in the loss mit portion of the market. I work with a regular pool of investors on short sales (and other good investments) that I find.

I can tell you, the one key component in the investor/realtor relationship is mutual respect. I can see undertones in this great forum of some anti-realtor sentiment...and that's cool with me...I get it. The barrier to entry to become a real estate agent is pretty low...and, at the same time, the barrier to entry to become a " real estate investor" is just about the same.

An incompetent investor is just as annoying as an incompetent realtor. Last week, I had a 22 year old, self proclaimed " Playa" , come in to my office and tell me that he wanted to buy a foreclosure because he heard they were " hot" . His strategy was to make offers at 40% of list price on 50 properties....sounds fun, but no thanks.

The bottom line is if you are lucky enough to find a good agent, respect them and their time and they will treat you like gold.

P N.


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I almost always sell with an agent, and about 1/2 my purchases are with an agent.

My agent is really happy to write lowball offers for me-- because if I decide I want a property, I often end up with it.

If you just shotgun lowball offers, you waste everyone's time. Save your energy, and your agent's temper, and only write lowball offers on properties where you see some reason that the seller might be motivated.

Mike S.

Real Estate Investor
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I would suggest going to your local real estate investors club and talking with the seasoned investors. See if they will share with you the names of one or more investor-savvy agents, with the attributes that Dan spoke of. Of course, the investors might try to " hog" their agent like their favorite contractor, and not share! You mighjt have better luck this way than going into or calling a real estate office cold. Good luck!

Jack B.

Real Estate Investor
Jacksonville, FL
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I have found that every bank, in my area, has some distressed property to some extent. Sometimes they will send you to the Bank's REO realtor, or they may have their own REO division. One of mine, yes, I have multiple and any good investor will do the same, made me sign a non-disclosure agreement. I could buy direct from them, no need for commission sales from the realtors.

When writing offers, go look at the MLS online, you can do it on yahoo or your local MLS site. Look at what people are asking for, MLS is retail pricing. I figure that if MLS is 95-100 percent of the value of the house, I will offer closer to wholesale which is 50-60% of the MLS price. Most banks ask realtors to do a BPO, Broker Price Opinion, for the property, but most good REO realtors will tell you if they think the BPO is worth what they paid for it. Remember that realtors get paid for BPOs from the banks, so the value that a bank comes up with is based on what a realtor " thinks" the property is worth.

Julian B.

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Charlotte, NC
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Ohhh Jax...excellent strategy.

So I would, for example, go to my bank's REO dept, (let's say..Wachovia) and get directed to the REO agent(s) handling there REO's. Then just make offers thru them, DIRECTLY to the bank! Brilliant!
That seemingly would cut down on the banks " lagging" on the counter. Makes sense b/c since the agent works for the bank itself, he/she can tell you what the bank will consider, and not just throw numbers to the wind HOPING it'll get accepted. You can BOTH buy direct from the bank (best deals) and avoid paying commissions to a realtor whose not playing fair. (lazy, does'nt return calls, etc.)

Brilliant!

Ohh Jax, you're scratching me right where I itch..... keep it up!

Jugantic

Eric M.


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I have bought dozens of properties from Realtors and I am a Realtor. I pay the other agents as if I weren't Realtor to encourage them to keep the good leads coming.

From my experience I would never recommend ruling out any person who has the possibility of bringing you a lead.

I see investing like a big wrestling match and the more moves that I know the better my chance of winning. Every exit strategy and every contact is one more move in my arsenal of getting paid.

Shari P.

Residential Real Estate Agent
Long Beach, California
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Good luck going directly to the bank for one deal. A bank like Wachovia is national so you're going to call some 800 number and get tranfered 100 times to somebody who will send you a list of their properties that are already listed in the town you want. A bank may use different agents even in the same town and different banks use different agents. In a big city there are dozens of agents who list REO properties. If you are planning on buying in bulk this scenario might be different but to buy one house you'll be doing an enormous amount of leg work PLUS just because it's an REO doesn't mean it is a deal. Just because the property's listing agent is representing you doesn't mean that you are going to get a better deal (i.e. the bank will be giving the agent both sides of the commission anyway). What makes you think an REO agent who is juggling 50 listings from 5 different banks is going to do a better job driving you around to other agent's listings (REO or otherwise) to make sure you get the best deal?

My advice is to get referrals for a trusted, honest, hardworking agent in the area who wants to keep you as a long-term client as you buy more properties. (FYI--I'm a Realtor if you hadn't guessed. )

Stephen M.

Residential Real Estate Agent
Moreno Valley, CA
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I am an agent that works 90% with investors in the inland empire. I also buy investment property myself. I think this is the most important aspect of finding a real estate agent. If they don't own rentals or flip homes there is no way they will understand what you are looking for. If you want to make your life easy without commiting to any one agent here is what I would do.

Go to several real estate offices in your area. Talk to the office manager. Tell him/her that you are looking for an agent that works with investors. After they refer you to someone give them your criteria. If you are buying rentals give them a cash flow break down in % or $. If you are flipping give them a formula like 70% ARV - repairs. Again it all depend on your area. If you do this at several offices you will have a good source of leads that you can sort through your self. I am always looking for more people to call about deals that come across my desk.

And NEVER, I mean NEVER, buy a property though a different agent than the one that gave you the lead. They are trusting you so give them your trust back.